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To: FatherofFive

“Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Mat 5:14-15

Matthew is referring to the faithful in Christ – THEIR LIGHT, not an institutional hierarchy.

“Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism.” Eph 4:3-5

Again, the reference is to the faithful in Christ – THAT THEY BE VISIBLE, it is not a reference to an institutional hierarchy.

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

The context is in the framework of a question Yeshua put to the disciples – upon what would His Church be founded, a question that Peter answered – that that foundation is belief that Yeshua is the Christ, and Yeshua’s answer to Peter is a play on words (Petra = rock) that is saying that Peter’s ANSWER, NOT Peter, is the rock the Church is built on.

As to: ““I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13 and “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

The “house of God”, as written by the learned Jewish-Christian Saul/Paul is not a physical place, it is a relationship, as in:

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death [see When And Where Your Eternal Life Will Begin and The Eighth Day: Empty Cemeteries], I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.”

The “house of Abraham” was not a physical place, it was all the kin of Abraham including all descended from Abraham, as is the case with the “house of Jacob”, and as it is for all who by faith and practice dwell in the “house of God” spiritually, keeping to the foundation of His Church that He is the risen Christ. That is NOT faith in a human hierarchical institution, nor “dwelling” in a human institution, but “dwelling” that is LIVING, in His Church by faith and practice from the foundation of that Church which is that He is the risen Christ.

And yes: “Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.”


10 posted on 01/13/2014 10:07:00 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli
OK. So Christ was stupid. He gave up his Godly essence to become Man, suffer and be punished and died to establish a Church that could be interpreted by anyone to mean whatever they think it to means by anyone who reads a bible 1,500 years after He established His Church.

Makes total sense.

Not.

16 posted on 01/14/2014 11:15:01 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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