Posted on 01/11/2014 6:13:55 AM PST by NYer
The early inhabitants were Britons.
Woman: Who are the Britons?
King Arthur: Well, we all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king.
Woman: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
You’re foolin’ yourself! We’re living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class . . .
Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
Did he look like someone from Latin America or from Spain? The article is theorizing that original Irish ancestors came from Spain, not Latin America.
Bloody peasant.
The Milesians are of the red thread of Zerah and settled Spain and Ireland when they had to flee due to the birth controversy. At the Babylonian captivity the tender twig merged with the red thread to continue the line of David's reign on David's throne, aided by Jeremiah and Baruch. Yes, northern Spain and Ireland should be related, as the tribe of Dan and the tribe of Judah are related.
It's nice to see that DNA studies are confirming what bible studiers have known for hundreds of years.
My Norwegian grandmother claimed that our family was descended from Eric the Red, something about our “family crest” and stories passed down on her father’s side, but I take that with a bit of a grain of salt as I bet a lot of Norwegians claim this.
I am interested in getting one of those 23andme DNA kits; I think it would be interesting, perhaps even clarify some of my ancestry.
As far as the British Isles and the Scandinavian influence, both on culture, language and genetics, don’t forget that the Vikings did not just conduct pillaging raids but they also settled large areas of Brittan, i.e. the Daneland. Then they, the Anglo Saxons who were Germanic, were invaded by the Normans…. the Normans being decedents of Norsemen who settled in the north of France, the area known as Normandy.
Not unusual. So did Indians, when harvesting walnuts, in North America.
“Did he look like someone from Latin America or from Spain?”
Spain,that’s why I posted “Hispanic”.
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Your right, when I looked it up I only saw the second definition.
People from Spain are not particularly dark-skinned, unless they’re from Southern Spain, where there is more of a North African influence.
The Irish would have been descended from a group located in Northern Spain, where many people have very black hair, very fair skin, and either blue or black eyes. This is basically the look that the “black Irish” have.
Things like hazel eyes and even red hair are generally the result of a mixture of a blond group with a black-haired group, such as the mixture of the blond Vikings with the original black-haired Irish.
There are virtually no red-heads in Northern Spain unless they are the product of modern marriages.
In any case, Latin Americans are an entirely different mixture. They are European Spaniards with a Native America admixture, combined with later influences of other European groups, particularly Germans and to a lesser extent, the English and the Italians. Some are more or less Indian than others. Argentinians, for example, have very little Indian blood and pride themselves on being mostly Italian (probably why their country looks so good but is so dysfunctional).
As for the Spaniards, a lot of the ordinary people who did much of the settlement came from Andalusia (Southern Spain), although most of the expedition leaders and officers came from Northern Spain, so there is a wide range of coloring and features.
23andMe is basically a data collection thing. When they send you the kit (for which you have paid something), they then ask you a million genetic research questions - about your family, your body, your health, etc. - before you can even go ahead.
Also, if you’re a woman, you can’t get a very clear reading on the genetic background since you’re missing part of it. If you have a brother, have him do it.
Basically, I’d say that if you want to do it, it will give you something although not very much if you’re a woman, but refuse to fill out their forms unless you really like that sort of thing.
Parts of Ireland (most notably the western seaboard) have been almost untouched by outside genetic influence since hunter-gatherer times.
That's where three of my bloodlines are from. May account for the stubbornness. :)
Real Irish grow actual beards. At least that's not green beer there.
From the FRchives:
Genetic Survey Reveals Hidden Celts Of England
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/584960/posts
Split Between English and Scots Older Than Thought
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1115744/posts
‘Apartheid’ slashed Celtic genes in early England
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1668298/posts
Irish, Scots And Welsh Not Celtic - Scientist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1211427/posts
Our Celtic Roots Lie In Spain And Portugal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2011978/posts
English and Welsh are races apart DNA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2535539/posts
Gene Study Shows Ties Long Veiled in Europe [repost]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2536288/posts
CHRIST in BRITAIN
http://www.greatdreams.com/jesus2.htm
>> Argentinians, for example, have very little Indian blood and pride themselves on being mostly Italian <<
It’s often said of the Argentinos that they are Italians who speak Spanish — and who pretend they are English!
(They take afternoon tea at the polo club, etc.)
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