passed judgement on him without reading the report?
I went through all 86 pages and the additional 38 pages of released information from the investigation, and anybody that goes through it will conclude the girl is clearly lying.
First, she DID say she was hit on the head, but no evidence of it. She said she had been intoxicated, but blood alcohol levels show they were nowhere near blackout levels, neither was their any presence of drugs in her urine.
Second, she told people she took a shot from a stranger, but the only person witnesses saw her take drinks from was Marcus Jordan
Third, the Text “Meet me outside” which she an Monique Kessler say they saw on the victim’s phone never existed. Verizon’s phone records were subpeonaed and determined that the message was never on the victim’s phone.
Fourth, Kessler was adamant victim stay around while she go to bathroom for safety, but later when victim supposedly got the “meet me outside” text and shows it to Kessler asking if she should go, Kessler says if she wants to? Yeah, right.
Fifth, the injuries the victim had on her knees and elbow are consistent with the “oral” activities described by Casher and Darby, although the victim says no oral activities took place.
Sixth, the accuser has all sorts of memories for detailed specifics, such a colored sheets, scooters, cab, etc, but when she changes her story over and over again from “hit on the head” to “blacking out” to “taking a shot -drugged” police were chasing ghosts.
Seventh, the ambulance chaser attorney is claiming that “anyone can pee in a cup” suggesting that the accuser’s blood and urine were switched which is why the “date rape” drug wasn’t present. Sure. Or the accuser was just lying.
Eigth, after getting dropped off, accuser gets texts messages telling her they’ve got answers to the Spa-2 Exam, which victim replies immediately to pleease send them. This happened even before she got back to her dorm, but was supposedly blacking out.
Ninth, accuser’s boyfriend, Jamal Roberts, who also happens to be a football player at Kent State, at some point, visited the accuser in Tallahassee that same week. Either that, or the accuser doesn’t wash her clothes very well as his DNA was still on her shorts. It seemed clear she wouldn’t want people to find out where she had been.
Tenth, although she deleted it, Google Cache and her Twitter handle clearly show she followed the hashtag #FSUCleatChaser. She even went to games as most recently as the Miami game. Sure, that’s normal to go to the game and cheer the guy you accused of rape on? Yeah.
Elventh, Patricia Carroll, the ambulance chaser planted a story on the accuser to tell her friend Monique Kessler that they had shared clothes (this is before it became clear that the DNA on the shorts was Jamal Roberts). When asked by police during her interview, Kessler said she could not recall them sharing clothes, let alone the fact that Kessler is 5”8 and the accuser is 5”5 so the sharing of shorts would not be realistic.
I could go on and on, but these were the details in the report that the mainstream sports media failed to report. These issues are precisely the reason why Willie Meggs didn’t charge Winston and why there will be no Civil Suit by the ambulance chaser against TPD or Winston because the facts fall apart quickly.
There is evidence that one of two things happened: (1) She thought she was going to be more than a side piece and since Winston had a GF also, turned out that wasn’t the case and regretted the action. (2) Chris Casher says he tried to video the girl and Winston. Perhaps the girl thought he had actually recorded something and she was afraid it would get out on the internet. Or she is just plain lying trying to earn a buck as a cleatchaser.
I suggest everyone read the report and released interviews for themselves. Once you realize the lamestream media is doing what they do best (withholding reporting facts), you’ll realize Winston was innocent and the act was consensual.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I’m impressed at your documentation.
Is that kind of post even allowed on FR anymore? I thought we were just supposed to shoot from the hip.
you’ll realize Winston was innocent and the act was consensual.
I don’t think this was a rape, but I don’t think Winston is “innocent” in the truest sense of the word either.
I also think if the situation was reversed (white male and black female) Sharpton and Jesse would have been in town, but that is not Winston’s fault.
Like I said, he deserved the award as the best player this season for his on the field performance, but I am still surprised only 12% of the voters found him morally insufficient for such an honor. I don’t think any of this really sinks in for Winston, but I sure would not want my daughter to date him or marry him. The fact that his roommate either wanted to “join in” or “go next” and was willing to film it seems to indicate such behavior was normal for these young men.
Before anyone says it - I know these young men are not choir boys, but shouldn’t such an award have a requirement of honorable character? Perhaps it says more about our society and it is obvious Winston is oblivious to it all. His quote “I knew I did nothing wrong” tonight says it all.
In legal terms he is most likely correct. In moral terms it seemed quite Clintonesque to me. I wonder what his girlfriend thought about it all?
Consensual or not, both of them are sleaze bags.
You are the typical jameis apologist. If this were a regular joe, he would be charged with rape. Jameis at the very least is a lowlife.
Crime? Just curious if video recording that would be a criminal act in that case.
Thanks for the summary. Something was never right with this case
I wonder why the media is so quick to convict Winston....when the same media a few yrs ago did everything to cover up Kobe Bryant’s rape of a hotel worker...yes Bryant raped her...his out of court settlement would confirm that
That news conference by Patricia Carroll was kinda bizarre. Wonder what political connections Carroll has to get her white client to get the media to believe a black Heisman Trophy frontrunner and winner raped her?