THE INCREDIBLY DEPRESSING ANSWERS COLLEGE STUDENTS GAVE WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

A Pennsylvania woman set out with a video camera to learn what college students in her state know about the Holocaust — and discovered an incredible lack of knowledge not only of the genocide of the Jews, but of basic facts about U.S. history and World War II.

Rhonda Fink-Whitman visited college campuses in Pennsylvania this fall, including the venerated Ivy League institution the University of Pennsylvania, where she was repeatedly faced with a remarkable ignorance about events that took place in the last century.

Students didn’t know where Normandy was, why U.S. forces landed there, why the U.S. even entered the war or who was president at the time. (Wilson, Eisenhower and JFK were among the guesses.) One student didn’t know who Anne Frank was, because he said he never read the book.

You should take a look at the Common Core 7th grade social studies curriculum. Three weeks, so far, spent on The Catholic Church. You’d be amazed what is being taught. As a Catholic, and you can kiss my ass questioning that, I’m appalled by what is being taught in public school 7th grade history class about the Catholic Church. Yet, I don’t see too many Catholics protesting that, lol. Or any historians protesting the misinformation.

KMA. I don’t need to “learn the truth about public education” as I wrote a paper on it in grad school in the 80s. Where were all the “conservatives” then protesting what was happening, had been happening, to the public education system (and Catholic and private) back then? Were they all just fine with the liberal, marxist takeover that started back in the 50’s? Appears so.

Check out the Catholic School Curriculum for NJ and it aligns with the public school curriculum. Guess you think Catholic Schools are antithetical to education too.

It’s so much nicer and more convenient to blast it on a message board than actually doing something about it.

Heh, my kids are just fine. Oldest is a college graduate with a BSME and working full time with benefits, college senior in honors college and working on her honors thesis and asked to present it (the rough draft, lol, they haven’t even seen the final draft) next year at a marketing/management conference and working an internship at Warner Music in NYC. The high school senior (in gasp, a public high school) is an honors student and going to college for nursing, on a scholarship, but may take an athletic scholarship instead since it offers more money).

Now my high school sophomore, she’s unfortunately stuck in the new standards, as she was back in Catholic k-8 which didn’t prepare her for the academics in public high school.

But see, in the long run, she will be fine too because she was raised to be. I’m thrilled they are all living their lives as Catholics, Conservatives.

We’re fortunate
(or maybe not since we worked our asses off to get here) to live in an affluent community with excellent (and declining) schools.

What you may not see, and others may not see, is soon the SATS are going to reflect the Common Core requirements and private, Catholic, and homeschooling won’t matter as all will have to teach it in order to pass the SATs.

Our education system sucks and the incremental changes since the 70s or earlier can be blamed on the liberals and the nanny staters, some who claim to be Conservatives. And those who didn’t fight the changes and still don’t fight them.

It’s idealistic to think everyone will pull out their kids from either public, Catholic, Christian, and private schools to homeschool. It’s not going to happen. We’re not going to stop what’s happening in public school curriculum, and the dumbing down of our education system, by expecting every conservative to homeschool or send their kids to private school. Especially now with this economy (our parish catholic school has so many students on tuition assistance, $70,000 worth just for this school year). This is an affluent area and most of the kids in our parish school are coming from non-affluent areas since the out of parish tuition thing isn’t happening anymore. So, those who pay full tuition, are also paying for those “economic cases” that keep increasing every year.

So the get “your kid out of public school” means nothing to me. To where? The Catholic high schools I can’t afford? The private schools I can’t afford? Fortunately, none of my kids needed any of it so we’re good. And to those who send their kids to the Catholic schools with subsidies, who the hell do you think is paying for those tuitions? The rest of us.

Fortunately, my kids are fine. I just hate paying for everyone else’s kids. What do we do about that when the “government” pays which means we pay?

You want to send children to the Nazi Concentration Camps? A child who may or may not be a “jewhater” to the concentration camps to make a point?

I don’t understand you at all.

You’re an idiot and someone I don’t want representing the conservative or tea party cause.

So is it just supposed jewhaters or random anyone haters? Should we also send supposed or future catholic haters, or protestant haters, or cat haters?

Gotta love that nanny state. Yet we wonder why we are in the position we are in.

Great. I say you go first and leave your kid or supposed kid out it.

--- KMA. I don’t need to “learn the truth about public education” as I wrote a paper on it in grad school in the 80s ---

A grad school paper? Impressive.

So... Catholic schools are bad because they follow the govt school.curriculum? Well, yeah. So that means Catholic schools are often as bad. That's hardly an endorsement of govt schooling.

Bishop Sheen said, back in the '50s, that it would be better for a.Catholic child to fight for his faith in a government school, than to lose it in a Catholic school. But this discussion was about homeschooling, wasn't it?

As someone who wrote a paper in grad school, there is little that anyone can tell you about the sordid history of compulsory schooling in America. But others might have something to learn.

The Underground History of American Education.

You may be interested to know what public school, 7th grade history class is teaching about St. Thomas Aquinas.

Or not.

Yes, it will matter to homeschooling parents and students since they will have to pass the new assessment tests, and pass the new SAT tests.

The SATs have changed and they will continue to change.

This will affect homeschooled students too. How can you not see that?

I don’t have to “think back to my catechism” as I live it daily.

Maybe we are on opposite sides in this. That whole leave it up to God thing contradicts God helps those who help themselves and I’m the latter.

Maybe you don’t have to care about the SATS but I still have one kid that needs to do well for scholarship money since we are middle class, and white, and we get nothing other than money from academics. So yeah, some of us do care about SAT scores. Not for eternity, but for college scholarship money.

So yeah some of us still care about SAT scores while also caring about eternity.

Plenty of colleges will accept a portfolio of work, rather than SAT scores, because they know that the tests are being dumbed down.

Regardless, if the govt makes them mandatory, skip college. Seriously. Learning and schooling are not synonymous, and are often antithetical.

I’ve been active in school-related issues for a long time. I even ran for school committee. The system is irreformable. The best way out is homeschooling. Rand Paul has the audacious goal of 25% of school age children. It sounds absurd, but the numbers are growing exponentially, with 5% now homeschooling, and doubling every decade.

Schools are a wildly inefficient and outmoded form of delivering formalized education. It’s easier to see when you live outside the system. It’s hard to take it seriously. Remember, the teachers and administrators have a vested interest in perpetuating it.

Your stories, basically, suck.

lol. You don't have to read them.

How’s that porn thing going?

Yeah, you ain’t credible.

I don't even know what you mean.

I think you made up your entire life.

I wish

I’m shocked FR hasn’t banned you yet

Why would I be banned Twerk? I'm the least offensive poster on FR and I never really worry about offending Jim Robinson because as far as I can tell I agree with him on almost everything.

It will happen eventually

Whatever. Just stop pinging to me, Twerk, you have nothing interesting to say.

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