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Take Your Pick: Default or Hyperinflation
ClashDaily.com ^ | October 1, 2013 | G.C. Mandrake

Posted on 09/30/2013 12:38:58 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Default is soooo much better than hyperinflation. Default would likely cause a mega-credit deflation and a new Great Depression. I’d take that any day over what happened in Weimar Germany. Read about their hyperinflation—instead of their economy and society being devastated, it was completely nuked.

We could get both. In a hyperinflationary depression, the government would first try to inflate its way out of its debt, and then eventually have to give up. It would be god awful, and I don’t think it’s an out of the question possibility.

All it takes is short term thinking on the part of our politicians and bankers until events overwhelm them.


21 posted on 09/30/2013 1:08:03 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin

Dorothy hooked up with three men she didn’t know and took off for a place unknown to get someone to help her out of the situation she put herself in. Sounds like a democrat.


22 posted on 09/30/2013 1:09:04 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: All

“Congress gave us a glimmer of hope after the House voted to audit the Fed”

you can’t “really” audit the fed. you can have some phony go thru the motions. the fed is controlled at levels that are not subject to any law.
the question you need to ask is “why wouldn’t it be”.
you think people like Michael Bloomberg, George soros, etc are just sitting around letting the stupid great unwashed rule themselves? look at the disdain that Bloomberg has for the masses, plus he, and the other billionares, were brought up to learn that the Christian majority should never hold power again.


23 posted on 09/30/2013 1:10:21 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Vermont Lt
Gold retains its value either way.

Right! Because $800 in 1980 was the same as $255 in 1999.

24 posted on 09/30/2013 1:12:54 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Just saw the 3D version of the Wizard. That Scarecrow was packing heat.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 1:20:01 PM PDT by Stentor ("Liberalism seeks out the eccentric to justify control over the normal." nathanbedford)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

We were in a deflationary spiral then?

I must have missed that one when my interest rates on my first home hit 15%.


26 posted on 09/30/2013 1:46:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Kaslin

“or”???

They thrive quite compatibly together.

Why does the author say “or”?


27 posted on 09/30/2013 1:48:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Vermont Lt
We were in a deflationary spiral then?

If you consider the crashing price of that metal to be a deflationary spiral, then sure.

If you were claiming the purchasing power of that ounce of gold was equivalent from 1980 to 1999, you're off by a bit.

28 posted on 09/30/2013 1:49:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: bolobaby

“U.S. Default = WWIII”

BRING IT ON!!!!!


29 posted on 09/30/2013 1:49:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Ah, no. A deflationary spiral is an economy, not a single asset.

I keep forgetting how narrow minded people around here just to win an argument.


30 posted on 09/30/2013 1:52:07 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Vermont Lt
Ah, no. A deflationary spiral is an economy, not a single asset.

That's a relief. Glad you could answer your own question.

31 posted on 09/30/2013 1:53:43 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Uncle Chip
U.S. Default = WWIII Hyperinflation = Civil Unrest

Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic led to civil unrest and ultimately to WWII anyway. Perhaps the same cycle could repeat itself in the future.

You see, under a default the people who lent money to the US government get wiped out.

But under hyperinflation, everyone who holds US dollars could get wiped out whether they lent to the government or not. Paying back creditors with hyper-inflated dollars is essentially the same thing as a default and will anger both foreign creditors and domestic creditors anyway:

Thus although, a Default could theoretically lead to unrest and world war III, the same is true of hyperinflation. The real question is do you want lots of angry rich people/investors and foreign creditors or do you want everyone who holds dollars to be angry including the creditors?

32 posted on 09/30/2013 3:12:00 PM PDT by old republic
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Renunciation of the debt...

Why not renounce the debt owed to the Federal Reserve? The feds digitize some more money, and say it's bonds owed to the Federal Reserve? I'm sure those mysterious shareholders will still be multi-billionaires without it.

33 posted on 09/30/2013 3:17:22 PM PDT by grania
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To: Vermont Lt
Value is critical

That is why if one believes hyperinflation will happen it makes sense to get those long term purchases done before it happens. Car, appliances, new roof on the house, etc. The money's not collecting interest in the bank, and who totally trusts the banks with savings if things go crazy?

34 posted on 09/30/2013 3:20:30 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Why not renounce the debt owed to the Federal Reserve?

Yes, that will happen eventually.

35 posted on 09/30/2013 3:38:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: old republic
Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic led to civil unrest and ultimately to WWII anyway. Perhaps the same cycle could repeat itself in the future.

Perhaps, but Weimar in 1923 was still a conquered nation with no control over fiscal policy.

That is far from the situation that the US confronts.

36 posted on 09/30/2013 3:40:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: grania
Why not renounce the debt owed to the Federal Reserve?

Why?

I'm sure those mysterious shareholders will still be multi-billionaires without it.

Mysterious shareholders?

37 posted on 09/30/2013 3:44:17 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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