They can do both as Rome is a law unto herself.
So says a Self and Self Alone advocate who believes in starting here
but pretends Self and Self Alone doesn't lead inevitably to this sort of garbage
How can someone in their right mind who claims to believe what Scripture says about the fallen nature of man, claims that Jesus Christ ignored non inspired books being included in the Septuagint Christ Himself quoted from, claims that the Holy Spirit could not and did not protect God's Holy Word from the inclusion of error, swallow the lie that Self and Self Alone is capable of doing what they claim Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit could not do with regard to His Word?
How can the same folks swallow the lie that the Holy Spirit has not guided and protected The One,Holy,Catholic,and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded, the only organization on earth that can trace it's teaching and leadership directly back to the Apostle Peter, the oldest continuously existing organization on earth, an organization that began with Jesus Christ Himself handing authority to the Apostle Peter who Jesus Christ Himself had given a new name just as He gave Abraham a new name, but that the same Holy Spirit they claim is totally incapable of protecting Scripture and the Church Christ Himself established from error, does protect from error the tens of thousands of groups and millions of Self and Self Alone individuals that all disagree with one another and all claim they are the only correct group or individual?
Someone can only fall for that lie if they refuse to accept the Word of God which clearly states that the Church, not the individual, is the pillar and bulwark of the Truth. Refusing to accept His Word opens them to falling for literally the oldest lie in the book, the same lie Eve fell for, the same lie people like Wycliffe and Luther swallowed, the same lie that has led such folks to embrace not only that oldest of all lies but to accepting the heresy of Core and even to throwing portions of God's Holy Word into the garbage.
The strong delusion of Self and Self Alone without fail leads people away from Christ and more often than not ends with either apathy or Self Worship.
I Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: I Corinthians 1:24 But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.