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To: 4Zoltan

“Obama’s mother wrote “indefinitely” not “permanently”. And we know from her passport records that she continued to renew her US passport continuously throughout her life.”

Obama’s mother returned to the US on an expired passport in 1971. An expired passport and failure to notify the State Depart of a return date are expatriating acts which may result in the SoS issuing a CLN. The issuance of a CLN is discretionary. Rescinding a CLN after issuance is discretionary, as well.

Obama could have rescinded his CLN up to 6 months past his 18th birthday because he was a minor when it was issued, but he made a choice not to do that. He marketed himself as a foreign born person raised in Hawaii and Indonesia until it was no longer convenient. SCOTUS has opined a naturalized U.S. citizen is ineligible for POTUS. Obama chose to recapture in U.S. Citizenship in 1983 by completing the naturalization process. Proof of his naturalization on file with DHS. Contrary to popular belief, the naturalization papers of a U.S. citizen are subject to the Privacy Act and unobtainable without their permission or a Court order.


144 posted on 09/28/2013 3:51:41 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“An expired passport and failure to notify the State Depart of a return date are expatriating acts”

Link to the law? Frankly, I think you made that up.

Obama’s mother returned in October, 1971, she renewed again in January, 1972. Since she is deceased, her immigration records are available for public viewing. So show us her CLN. It should be in her file.

“Obama could have rescinded his CLN up to 6 months past his 18th birthday because he was a minor when it was issued, but he made a choice not to do that.”

Any proof of this? Speculation doesn’t count as proof.

“He marketed himself as a foreign born person raised in Hawaii and Indonesia until it was no longer convenient.”

Not according to the 1990 New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune which all interviewed him and in which he said he was born in Hawaii.

There is also his 1999 Illinois Senate webpage that lists him as born in Hawaii. In fact, the only document from the 1990s that mentions Kenya is the literary agent’s bio, which the agency says was their screw up.


145 posted on 09/28/2013 6:27:28 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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