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To: Ray76

“””Countries by treaty have reciprocal recognition of their naturalization laws.

The international status of a foreign born child of a US citizen may differ depending upon treaty.

That person may visit a country with which the US has secured by treaty reciprocal naturalization understandings without fear of claims upon him by the foreign country.

That same person may visit a country with which the US has not secured by treaty reciprocal naturalization understandings but at the risk of claims upon him by the foreign country.

While this person’s domestic status is the same, his international status depends upon treaty.

A “natural born citizen” - a person born within the US with parental US citizenship - has no such risk. His domestic and international status is always the same, without any dependency upon law or treaty, no other nation may make any claim upon this person.”””

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Thank you! That’s EXACTLY the point I’m trying to make, as that’s EXACTLY what the Founders intended: The U.S. President’s domestic and international status must always be the same, without any dependency upon ever-evolving laws or treaties. No other nation may make any claims upon the U.S. President, legally or in regards to loyalty, etc., EVER. Period.

It’s not too hard to understand that the Founders understood and intended such, explicitly, in order to preserve the newly independent nation.


143 posted on 08/28/2013 10:30:53 AM PDT by Rides3
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To: Rides3

You’re welcome.


144 posted on 08/28/2013 10:38:29 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Rides3
To illustrate the principle, let's supply some fictitious specifics...
Case 1

A person is born in foreign country GooGooGaGaLand to US citizen parents. The US and GooGooGaGaLand have a treaty reciprocally recognizing (or "harmonizing", if you will) their naturalization laws.

A few years later the family returns to the US. US law recognizes the foreign born child as a "citizen". Many years later as an adult, the child travels to GooGooGaGaLand. GooGooGaGaLand recognizes this person as a US citizen and he is unmolested.

Case 2

A person is born in foreign country GooGooGaGaLand to US citizen parents. The US and GooGooGaGaLand do not have a treaty.

A few years later the family returns to the US. US law recognizes the foreign born child as a "citizen". Many years later as an adult, the child travels to GooGooGaGaLand. GooGooGaGaLand recognizes this person as a GooGooGaGaLand citizen and impresses him into military service.

Now substitute Great Britain for GooGooGaGaLand.

Or Canada for GooGooGaGaLand.

146 posted on 08/28/2013 10:57:12 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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