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To: OneWingedShark; Norm Lenhart; C. Edmund Wright

By virtue of your tagline, Sharky, I opine that the crashing fall of Christianity is the cause of all the increasing divisions, in both the intellectual warfare and in the tactical combat going on (among even the basically like minded) concerning all the endless compromising, as to when to compromise, or, to what large or minute degree to compromise.

NL and C.EW are consistently awesome posters, neither with whom I have found occasion to disagree, whether it be my good luck, or misfortune, it’s a jolt to read through a disagreement between them.

The “lesser of two evils” rule begins to become non-binding when its result repeatedly yields further demise in real terms, and/or in intellectual and political terms. Like banging one’s head into the proverbial brick wall. Eventually, after recognizing that we are pinned down into the wall under strafe of incoming demise and decline with no retreat, we contemplate doing something different.

The prez election will be close, but Hillary should win, particularly in a now solidly Marxist, socialist nation, where God and our traditions, morals, society and culture have been so marginalized. We have educated most of three generations for this moment, in direct
proportion to our own sloth and compromise.

We are now “fundamentally changed”. This alone should call for a radical departure from any more compromise and pithy talking politicians.

We LOSE, with or without the Republican Party, and it seems time has already run out on either changing or taking it back.

Third Party, in the mold of Tea can’t possibly be any more costly in terms of time and structuring and outcome than continually living on a wing and a prayer with the treacherous, monied, elite tyrants running the Republican Party.

Honestly, the radical Paul-approach is looking better and better, mostly because it is not popular, it wounds all sides of both parties and doesn’t seem to give a large damn, but aims relentlessly for an overhaul and course correction for government. A delicious prospect; to see some boats finally get rocked, with a course laid out to reverse and reduce the heavy handed oppression of the political and financial elite.

Just sayin’ there seems to me no viable runners out there so genetically steeped in the meaning of liberty and the Constitution (except those who use it for sound bites and flag waving) who have both the brains and ready organization of the Paul machine.

But a Republican I can’t be, not even one more time.


58 posted on 08/16/2013 10:05:38 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks for the good words Rita, but you do realize that you just bought yourself a ticket to being called a drunk and a low IQ type like me right ;)

Soon you will have pictures of Yosemite Sam on a dragon posted as examples of your sin.

Don’t ask me what that was about but perhaps the poster of such incisive commentary will explain yet again how evil I am for questioning the ‘logic’ of slitting ones own throat...


59 posted on 08/16/2013 10:17:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: RitaOK
We are all 'basically like minded' and agree on the goal. We're disagreeing over strategy & tactics. Here's an article which analyzes this strategy question as it regarded the battle over ending the scourge of abortion.

'All or None' vs. 'Incremental'

Which strategy is more effective is a legitimate question that conservatives should be able to disagree upon and still respect and think well of each other without resorting to personal attacks or name-calling which is the trademark of the RATs not us.

65 posted on 08/16/2013 10:26:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RitaOK
Third Party, in the mold of Tea can’t possibly be any more costly in terms of time and structuring and outcome than continually living on a wing and a prayer with the treacherous, monied, elite tyrants running the Republican Party.

You make some awesome points, but I think the one above is just wrong. I don't think you have a true reading on a couple of things.

A: First, where there is good governance going on, and it is going on in a lot of places, it is Republicans doing it. It is not Democrats. It is not some third party. It is being done by the good conservative Tea Party type Republicans where they have power.

Point AA: Where there is good opposition to Obama going on, it is being done by Republicans like Cruz, Paul, Levin, Limbaugh, Palin, Sowell, etc. No effective opposition is coming from any Democrat and no third party types.

And B, and this is crucial, I don't think you have any idea what it takes to build a party appratus. It is massive.

And point BB: once you have a party apparatus, you have inherent problems. This is a human nature problem, not a "republican" problem. People in power like to, um, STAY IN POWER. This will never change.

71 posted on 08/16/2013 10:39:11 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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