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To: Fred Nerks; Ladysforest; butterdezillion
Then it's possible what you are looking at is a deception which took place on August 8, 1961.

This, in my opinion, IS the nucleus of it all. When we look at the actions of SAD traveling though Seattle on her way to Boston with a new born black kid in January of 61 and the fact that she is not seen or pictured with a black kid until the black kid is like 3 or so then it begs the question. Was there some kind of relationship between the mother of the black kid and the Dunhams?

Maddy might have been waiting for an infant to die to take numerical identity to give legitimacy for the little black kid for whatever reason we do not know. But it would make sense if you were trying to give US Citizenship to a baby not born under normal circumstances. Or the death of Virginia just happened to present an opportunity for Maddy to gain legitimacy for a black baby she had in her care and it was a spur of the moment decision on her part. I do think you will find a birth announcement in the January February editions of the newspapers that may seem to us now as strange.

531 posted on 08/14/2013 7:15:40 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH; butterdezillion
This, in my opinion, IS the nucleus of it all. When we look at the actions of SAD traveling though Seattle on her way to Boston with a new born black kid in January of 61 and the fact that she is not seen or pictured with a black kid until the black kid is like 3 or so then it begs the question. Was there some kind of relationship between the mother of the black kid and the Dunhams?

Susan Blake placed the time of the visit from SAD in late August, after Susan had driven back to WA from CA when there were firest-fires, iirc. Susan said SAD had sent her a postcard she was coming to visit, and had borrowed a car from a friend of her mothers to do so. She stayed for half a day, Susan changed the baby's diaper because SAD didn't know how/or want to do it, and then she left to go to Boston, after which Susan never saw her again.

Maddy might have been waiting for an infant to die to take numerical identity to give legitimacy for the little black kid for whatever reason we do not know. But it would make sense if you were trying to give US Citizenship to a baby not born under normal circumstances. Or the death of Virginia just happened to present an opportunity for Maddy to gain legitimacy for a black baby she had in her care and it was a spur of the moment decision on her part. I do think you will find a birth announcement in the January February editions of the newspapers that may seem to us now as strange.

I think I need to point out to you that at that very time SAD was showing little zero to Susan Blake, on Captitol Hill there was a woman with a seven month old child being baby-sat by Mary. Or, alternatively, as Mary first stated, she babysat for Anna Obama when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months of age. Both statements indicate Anna Obama had a child that was born in January 1961. And yes, a birth announcement might have been generated by that birth in January 1961, if the mother allowed it. I don't think every single birth ended up as an announcement in the Honolulu papers...and btw, Madelyn Dunham didn't have to be the culprit, nor was it necessary for SAD to pick the child up from Hawaii, zero could have arrived from anywhere...but the child of Barack Obama and Anna (shown as Ann S Obama in the 1961 Hawaii directory) probably was a Hawaii born child.

Can you follow that it's possible his ID is an amalgum of; (1) the name of the child of the AFRICAN and Anna, born January 1961. (2)The birthdate of Virginia whose death announcement appeared on the date 'his birth certificate' was lodged. (3) providing him with the certificate number ending in 41. (4) and that gave rise to the birth announcement, where, had she lived, Virginia's birth announcement would have appeared...

And, as a result, no one can know who his parents were or when and where he was born?

532 posted on 08/14/2013 8:19:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: GregNH

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3052270/posts?page=461#461

So, who is he?


533 posted on 08/14/2013 8:23:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: GregNH

534 posted on 08/14/2013 8:29:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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