[Jeff Winston]

I’m glad that you both care so strongly about this issue, but I sincerely hope that your future discussions will be a tribute to the patriotism of this site, rather than an embarrassment.

I was willing to give birthers a full hearing, and to agree with them if what they said was true.

As detailed in this thread and in many other places, I've never found anything that wasn't BS. That wasn't disproven, misquoted, overruled, or otherwise just not a good point, for those who like reality and truth.

Because of that, I consider birthers to be counter-productive to conservatism, and an ongoing embarrassment to our conservative cause.

I really wish the whole thing would just go away. But it won't, as long as people keep posting things known to be BS, as if they were true.

And this isn't really how I wanted to spend my 4th of July. But it is what it is.

[trisham]

I hear you. Thanks for a thoughtful and kind response, friend.

[rxsid]

"As detailed in this thread and in many other places, I've never found anything that wasn't BS"

You believe the father of the 14th Amendment on citizenship was a bullsheeter?