“Dear Mr. Woodman,
There is no possible way I can tell if the PDF of President Obama’s birth certificate (POBC) made available by the White House is a “forgery” or not.”
Professor de Queiroz
By the way Jeff, Woodman has no credibility. He is an ally with Dr. Conspiracy and Fogbowers. His arguments were destroyed by Sheriff Joe’s CCP expert Mara Zebest. Queiroz ignores many anomalies found on the PDF such as the little smiley face in Alvin Onaka’s signature.
“There is no possible way I can tell if the PDF of President Obama’s birth certificate (POBC) made available by the White House is a “forgery” or not.”
That should be the response of any document examiner who has not examined the paper LFBC that was sent by Hawaii.
Which is why Mr. Hates response that he has reviewed the paper document is so interesting.
There is no possible way I can tell if the PDF of President Obama’s birth certificate (POBC) made available by the White House is a “forgery” or not.”
That's not what I'm referring to.
Woodman himself said pretty much the same thing in his book. Which you obviously haven't read.
"In order to prove a forgery... All we need is one single irrefutable proof. And we will do our best to find such a proof..."
"On the other hand, if we should find that we are able to safely dismiss every claim of forgery that has been made so far, doing so won't guarantee the authenticity of Barack Obama's long form birth certificate. A document might pass every test we can test it with, and still be a fake.
That's how REAL experts talk.
By the way Jeff, Woodman has no credibility. He is an ally with Dr. Conspiracy and Fogbowers. His arguments were destroyed by Sheriff Joe’s CCP expert Mara Zebest.
Obviously you haven't read his book. He destroyed Mara Zebest's arguments before she even made them. In fact, she barely even merited a mention in his book, which is more than 200 pages long and includes 175 footnotes.
I suggest you read it, if you want to know the real scoop.
Queiroz ignores many anomalies found on the PDF such as the little smiley face in Alvin Onaka’s signature.
Woodman addressed those in his book. You need to read it.
Woodman has no credibility... His arguments were destroyed by Sheriff Joe’s CCP expert Mara Zebest.
By the way, this is what birthers do.
They talk as if they really know something - because they WANT the result to be a certain way - when they haven't even read the book and don't have the faintest damn clue what they're talking about.
I”m supposed to believe one words you type?
My response to him was:
No, you're supposed to go to the sources and verify for yourself what the truth is.
And that doesn't mean taking some birther promoter's word when they say they "debunked" Woodman's book. It doesn't mean taking my word, either, when I say they didn't.
It means going through the actual arguments. All of them. Point by point. And reasoning them through, tracing them back to the original sources, admitting it when the person you don't like tells the truth, admitting it when the person you do like tells BS. And keeping a score card, and seeing for yourself who's telling the truth.
Here's the summary what Professor de Querioz had to say about the PDF:
In summary I can only say I see much stronger signs of common MRC algorithmic processing of the image rather than some intentional manipulation.
So then Woodman asks him to clarify a bit:
I understand your overall conclusion to be that the things you see (including the bitmask layers, etc.) are explainable by MRC compression; and you do not see anything that appears to you likely to have been the product of manual manipulation. Is this correct?
And de Queiroz answers:
Yes.