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The Single Largest Driver of the US Economy is About to Collapse
Zerohedge ^ | 6/26/13 | Phoenix Capital Research

Posted on 06/26/2013 3:52:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: autumnraine

Keep the faith and keep on prepping however little you can.
Make real friends where ever you land.
pray.

Best of luck to you.


41 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:30 PM PDT by Texas resident (Watch the other hand.)
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To: Old Sarge; blam; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; Bride Of Old Sarge; yorkiemom; metmom; driftdiver; ...

Ping my post #38


42 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: autumnraine
"but I have faith in my Lord and He will see us through"

You have more than half the battle already won sister! I found that prepping is much like the tithe with a little faith you be surprise that once you start how despite your worries it don't hurt at all. God watch over you and yours.
43 posted on 06/26/2013 7:33:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: greene66

My attitude exactly.

This whole sh!tt!ng mess has to implode before it can be fixed.


44 posted on 06/26/2013 8:04:21 PM PDT by x1stcav (Federal employees are parasites.)
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To: autumnraine
“I am terrified. I was prepper and we ate and used up all we had before we had to move out of state. Now we are back to square one.”

Please don't be terrified. Start with cheap basics again, beans and rice. Determine how to have water and store some. Just that will keep you alive. Add canned meat every week and a few cans of veggies and soup. Add toilet paper as you can. If you just do that, you will feel better, and keep adding. If you need suggestions, send me a Freepmail.

45 posted on 06/26/2013 8:40:39 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: autumnraine
Matthew 6:25-3425 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. 34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

Now, by no means am I suggesting not prepping. I am doing it myself.

However, this world is not our home. What is seen is temporal, what is unseen is eternal.

The best prepping is being prepared for eternity.

46 posted on 06/26/2013 8:46:28 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer; Shadowstrike

One such person Kart speaks of, insulted both Kart and me, called me a derogatory name and said Kart and I would split up the United States when the disaster happened, and Kart would rule half the states and I would rule the other half.

Kart, we have not yet divided the states between us.


47 posted on 06/26/2013 8:49:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: MarkL

I really believe people have no clue about how damaging Obamacare is going to be for our economy. The middle class is going to get crushed by the increased costs of healthcare and insurance.

I don’t believe our economy can absorb this.


48 posted on 06/26/2013 8:52:38 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Kartographer

That’s a funny chart.
“Years into RECOVERY”.

LMBO.


49 posted on 06/26/2013 8:56:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Marcella

Funny you should say that... it is in my nature and instinct. I bought a lb bag of rice and my kids said “mom, we have three bag of rice in the pantry” and I said, so now we have four....

Yeah. I am glad I know how to cook from scratch. Going to grab some beans on the next trip.


50 posted on 06/26/2013 10:23:48 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you. Even after my post, I realized I can grab a can here and a can there.

I started once, I can start again. Even in a ‘big city’, I can prep!

And again, He will see us through. He sent me to a very old fashioned church (who all see the end times that I do) and we will all get through it together. I am so proud of my pastor. He sees it, he preaches it, and as shrinking (sad) as our church is, we will get through it.


51 posted on 06/26/2013 10:26:46 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Texas resident

Thank you. Maybe other folks with ingredients of ‘onion soup’ will call on me.

I do have a knack for cooking from scratch. If they have ingredients, I can make food from it.


52 posted on 06/26/2013 10:29:44 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Kartographer
I ask you have we fallen so far that we can’t match their deeds?

Yes.

Next question...

53 posted on 06/27/2013 4:02:51 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: volunbeer
I really believe people have no clue about how damaging Obamacare is going to be for our economy

Agreed... Wasn'[t there a recent poll showing a majority of Americans aren't even aware of Obamacare, or the fact it's "the law."

Barky and Nan were master magicians, in getting support for a law people knew nothing about, assuming that Barky and Nan love them, and are just looking out for their best interests. Then the same public promptly forget about it, and went on watching "The Real Housewives" and "Dancing with the Stars." The magic was making sure nothing painful was implemented before the 2012 elections, and hoping most people wouldn't notice how bad things are before 2014... Though there may be plans for a "wag the dog" scheme.

But you're right... Between flooding the health care system with new patients who have no way to pay for it, by cutting payments to the providers, and flooding the country with nearly 50 million unskilled "workers" who speak little or know english over the next couple of years, the whole thing will collapse. Cloward-Piven's theory will be put to the test.

Mark

54 posted on 06/27/2013 7:49:26 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: autumnraine

Excellent!

See, you know exactly what to do.

It’s easy to let fear take over, even when you know what to do and are doing it. I think that’s Satan’s work - to make us feel as bad as possible. Try not to worry and just keep trudging forward, as you are doing.


55 posted on 06/27/2013 9:09:38 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Kartographer
Most people right now have far less than 99% of our ancestors had when they struck out to tame a continent! I ask you have we fallen so far that we can’t match their deeds?

Very true. We aren't in covered wagons, trying to find our meals - and water - out on the prairie.

I talk about how the younger generation won't be able to survive without their electronics and will just expect Big Government to be there to save them. Well, I suppose in my own way I am just as complacent, not realizing how hard our pioneers had it - and survived without complaining and moved across the country willingly, facing Indians, starvation, etc.

Most likely, I'll still have a house to live in and have my preps - that's much more than my ancestors had!
56 posted on 06/27/2013 9:23:12 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Kartographer

Kart, you got it all wrong, I meant no insult in anyway shape or form, all I meant is that getting out of debt, no matter how hard you try isn’t always that easy.

I’ve been on your side all along, backed you up and defended you to others.

We’re good right?


57 posted on 06/29/2013 8:09:28 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Marcella

Miss Marcella, ma’am, like I (just got around to it) told Kart, the only thing I meant was that no matter how hard you work, and try getting out of debt isn’t always so easy.

You know I’ve got nothing but the utmost respect for you ma’am, at least I hope you do.

And anybody slinging mud (calling names) well, I always jusy assumed they were stuck on stupid and ignore people like that.

I’ve noticed the longer I’m on Free Republic the site seems to be getting a few more trolls than we used to, but ma’am I surely ain’t one of them.

I read every word that Kart posts, and read your post a couple of times (no offense to Kart), cause I know the “voice’ of wisdom when I read it.

Hope I’ve explained myself, didn’t realize that my post “sounded” as “harsh” or an insult.


58 posted on 06/29/2013 8:13:53 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike; Kartographer

Don’t worry, your post wasn’t harsh and I didn’t take it that way. You’re one of the good guys with the best tag line on this forum.

You may have debt and that’s not easy to deal with. I’d make minimum payments until I had enough preps including some cash, to get me through an emergency, then make more than the minimum payment. Preparing for life is first, then debt. Life takes many turns and we have to adjust as we take these turns. Make a plan and it feels better to have control of your life.

Thanks for your post.


59 posted on 06/29/2013 9:18:39 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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