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The Single Largest Driver of the US Economy is About to Collapse
Zerohedge ^ | 6/26/13 | Phoenix Capital Research

Posted on 06/26/2013 3:52:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

The markets continue their dead cat bounce while the economic data worsens.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
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To: Starboard
Zero Hedge: a lone voice of economic sanity.

I enjoy reading Zero Hedge, and visit the site almost every day.

But I am VERY leery of the author of the posted article, Phoenix Capital Research. I am also VERY leery of anything written by PCR's editor, Graham Summers.

PCR, and Summers, specialize in scare articles. At the end of each article, you'll find a link to a newsletter. Follow that link and you'll eventually get to sales pitch.

So it seems to me that their primary motivation is to scare you into subscribing to their newsletter.

21 posted on 06/26/2013 4:53:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Kartographer

We are spending Confederate money right now. Nothing stands behind the dollar but the Governments word, and that is not worth anything.


22 posted on 06/26/2013 4:54:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kartographer

I decided to not hold my breath. Better get used to the way it is. As long as the communists hold the cards, it will be damn hard to crash for many months now. Might even be years.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 5:00:59 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kartographer
This is the crux of the US’s current economic woes: consumer-spending accounts for roughly 70% of our GDP. And QE does nothing to help incomes, which drive consumption.

That's not true, of course. The GDP equation was designed by Keynesians who insist that consumer spending drives the economy. They intentionally left out business-to-business spending which is usually larger than consumer spending.

Consumer spending is really about 30% of overall spending and business-to-business spending runs about 40% of GDP. If that were broken out, we'd get a much better picture of how recessions start. Consumers spend pretty consistently, businesses not so much.

24 posted on 06/26/2013 5:09:44 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The Eurozone policy might best be described as "Laurel and Hardy Carry a Piano Upstairs.")
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To: greene66

I’m inclined to agree. The bed has been made. We’ll all burn in it.


25 posted on 06/26/2013 5:10:43 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Kartographer

At least we finally have man on man marriage.


26 posted on 06/26/2013 5:20:03 PM PDT by pacobell
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To: Venturer
Well, that's simply wrong. I don't particularly think the economy is good, but the dollar still is the world's reserve currency; the vast holdings of world gold are in the US and (technically) under US control; the stock market is due for a correction, but I don't know anyone who thinks it will be more than 3-5%; and at least in my area (southern OH) new construction is heavy. In Phoenix, home prices have risen steadily for a year and the real estate market is good again.

In short, while there are a lot of danger signs and a lot of stuff I surely don't like, the notion that this is the equivalent of "Confederate money" is silly. And by the way, one reason "Confederate money" was so useless was that the Confed government wouldn't take it in payment for taxes.

27 posted on 06/26/2013 5:22:01 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: BfloGuy

I agree, and despite what people seem to think, overall US consumer debt is down a little.


28 posted on 06/26/2013 5:22:59 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Kartographer
(SNIP)

Message from Lord Vader

“There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact, it’s all dark.” - Pink Floyd"

(SNIP)

It looks like 96,300 of the 175,000 new nonfarm jobs created last month were in very low wage industries (retail, 27,000), temporary, (25,600), leisure and hospitality (43,000). The industries with the two lowest hourly wages are leisure and hospitality ($11.76) and retail ($13.92). It isn’t clear how the world’s largest economy gets back on its feet with so many receiving such low incomes.

In the Dark Side wages don't matter, everything here is free – it's not that dark! The single greatest hurdle for the recognized U.S. economy however, is flat-to-declining wages. To some this may sound a tad like a broken record but the only thing that matters to the economic recovery is incomes.

Real disposable personal incomes – the amount that consumers have to spend once adjusted for inflation and taxes – increased 0.1 percent in April, a mere 1.0 percent higher than year ago levels. Similarly, the amount of spending that Americans facilitated with that lowly income inched up 0.1 percent, or 2.1 percent from April 2012. Real disposable personal incomes had a history of advancing at 3.75 percent, which would boost spending by a similarly robust pace. As long as income growth is staid as it is, the economy will continue to spin its wheels in a sideways movement, and subsequently keep a lid on job creation.

(SNIP)

29 posted on 06/26/2013 5:27:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer

Recovery? You kip usin’ dat word. I dunt dink it means what you dink it means.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 5:28:29 PM PDT by wny
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To: LS

Yea, consumer debt is down a little,,, for now.

Obamster is going to fix that when the EPA attacks our cheapest source of energy, and energy rates “...necessarily skyrocket”.

A collapse is possible, existential in nature for our country. The Zombies just may win this time.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 5:32:14 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Kartographer

The people that believe CO2 going up 0.01% of the atmosphere over 100 years will lead to the destruction of civilization are the very same people that believe a sudden 2% payroll tax hike won’t hurt a bit.


32 posted on 06/26/2013 5:32:27 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: LS

The Bonds we are buying with QE2 money are as useless as the money we are buying them from/ We used to borrow from the Chinese , then someone said why borrow, Just print.

I hope you are right, but I don’t believe it.


33 posted on 06/26/2013 5:41:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kartographer

Treasury yields will pull back in a few days and it will become apparent (again) that assets (US stock and real estate) offer the only returns that have a change of beating inflation.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 5:53:10 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Leaning Right

The comments on ZH articles are absolutely mind blowing.


35 posted on 06/26/2013 5:56:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Kartographer

easy to say Freepers should know better Kart, especially when you ain’t walking in their shoes.


36 posted on 06/26/2013 6:58:21 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike

Clearly you haven’t been paying attention. There are plenty that tell you they aren’t prepping, do not believe in prepping and hate people who do prep. Some so hate preppers and especial me and my post about being prepared that there has been some big time ugliness that even dragged in Jim Rob.

Don’t believe me? Ask any of the regular prepping folks.


37 posted on 06/26/2013 7:06:52 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Shadowstrike

Also this there lots of ways for people to prep on a budget and bag of beans a can of spam some matches, good used camping gear can be brought for a song are yard sells every weekend.

Are you going to be prepared for Mad Max, hell no, but a week without power/water that isn’t an impossible goal for anyone. Once there you build on that. Another part of prepping is knowledge first aide classes, teaching yourself gardening and so on cost nothing or next to nothing and once you have knowledge it yours to trade and use.

Your options are only limited by how willing you are to do something.

Most people right now have far less than 99% of our ancestors had when they struck out to tame a continent! I ask you have we fallen so far that we can’t match their deeds?


38 posted on 06/26/2013 7:21:54 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I won't be contributing to the recovery this coming year... Due to the "Affordable Care Act," I've got to figure out how to cut my spending by at least $5000 for increased medical expenses in the coming year. Hopefully I won't have to "dip into" my savings, but I may have to cut back on or even halt my contributions to my company's 401K.

Mark

39 posted on 06/26/2013 7:23:10 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: RoosterRedux
This is only the beginning of the end. When Obummer Care gets implemented by the IRS major wealth will be destroyed, redistributed along with the destruction of medicine. Energy cost are going to skyrocket with his attack on Coal and carbon taxes. Add 20 million or more illegals to the public dole and we haven't seen nothing yet.
40 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:22 PM PDT by pterional
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