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To: Fred Nerks
I really should know better than to bother having a discussion with you.

Stop being a drama queen. You clearly ignored the comments I posted and what I was originally responding too, and you brought up a bunch irrelevant nonsense on your own.

Stanley Armour isn't standing behind any Union Workers, they are in the back row, the coloured men are a Captain, an Officer and THREE CREW IN FRONT.

It doesn't matter. You're trying to arguing irrelevant minutia. Again, the issue I'm addressing is whether the Dunhams felt like there was a stigma involved in any such associations. This picture shows there wasn't.

Who said anything about stigma?

x, who brought it up in posts No. 121 and 176. That's what I've been responding to, before you blundered into the converstaion.

The only stigma anyone might have felt from being called a NEGRO was the man who appears insisted on being classified as AFRICAN.

There's no evidence that Barack Sr. insisted on any such thing.

I'm not interested in what Stanley Armour might have thought. There's no evidence he ever set eyes on the kenyan student, other than the myth of ‘Dreams’ - and that silly photograph that appears to have been taken on a Dock, does nothing to place them together anytime, anywhere.

And again, it doesn't matter if he set eyes on "the kenyan." The issue was whether the Dunhams would have listed Barack Sr. as African to avoid a stigma, and CLEARLY, from that picture, Stanley Armour Dunham is not concerned about any stigma from associating with anyone.

244 posted on 06/22/2013 11:26:52 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
...And again, it doesn't matter if he set eyes on "the kenyan." The issue was whether the Dunhams would have listed Barack Sr. as African to avoid a stigma, and CLEARLY, from that picture, Stanley Armour Dunham is not concerned about any stigma from associating with anyone.

I concede your point, because it isn't the parents of the mother who declare the contents of a birth certificate, it's the parents themselves. We are to take it that (Stanley) Ann Dunham Obama signed the document.

But if you are going to use that 'on the dock' image to show that Stanley Armour had nothing against appearing in the company of 'negro' people, you need to have some idea who those people are.

Some appear to be from the Nachmanoff groups, there's Dave and Robert Robillard, and Marda - and the asian woman is a graduate of the U of HI from class of 1959. There's an unidentified young woman standing very closely to the central character, there's a captain and an officer, three young crew members squatting, and a row of union workers in the background. Plus a couple of unidentified white men and another asian woman who appears to have been added. How you can establish what Stanley Armour felt about coloured people from that collection, escapes me. It only works if the central character was the kenyan student, and that possibility has just about been eliminated.

The captain, the officer and the crew - he would have had no choice over, if he was meeting some asian couple he knew on a dock in the 70's. Must have been someone who warranted a welcome committee.

246 posted on 06/23/2013 12:01:28 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: edge919

And btw, don’t bother to reply, I’m sick of being called a drama queen, it’s boring and predictable coming from you.


247 posted on 06/23/2013 12:05:49 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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