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To: little jeremiah

I think your question is why the founders made the qualification of President dependent on ‘natural’ law and less on man-made law. Man-made, or positive, law changes and can have conflicts, etc. Depending on it when it comes to life long loyalty is not wise.

But back to the practical question of ‘if he was Kenyan what is he now’. It would depend on what happened after the ‘family matter’ events of 1971. Or event during the events at the end.

If Obama was considered an Indonesian foreigner in 1971 and he had an Indonesian passport and no US passport (remember he came off his mother’s US passport in 1967! And there is no evidence he had a US passport after that until he is a Senator). So now you have an Indonesian minor who needs to immigrate to the US for whatever reason. But his legal parents are both Indonesian in the eyes of Indonesia law. So how does a child abandon or get abandoned by his legal parents and move to another country?

Possible answer: use BHO Senior as a ‘conduit’. He can ‘reclaim’ his name sake son (regardless of actual biology he is the father based on the 1964 divorce and possible create BC). One he does this frees Barry from any Indonesian ties and elminates Lolo and SADS as legal parents and guardians. Now Barry is Kenyan - the legal son (again) of a Kenya father. Likely during the month of December 1971 or early January 1972 Barry is then made a legal guardian of .... the Dunhams? Probably, maybe legally he is still Kenyan citizenship but under the care of an organization in charge of refugee foreign children (queue to Sven at this point) but ‘guardianship’ is given to the Dunhams. Who knows? No one has dug out the events of December 1971. But SOMETHING happened there and it seems Obama Sr was a key player. My theory is that he was in a ‘conduit’ role in 1971.

If i extended this theory further I would say somehow someway Obama leveraged his ‘foreignness’ to get into Oxy and to avoid filing a selective service form since a foreigner would not need to file one.

1971 was key event and period but has been mostly ignored.


162 posted on 06/20/2013 6:48:51 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

Thank you. That fills in a couple of holes in my understanding. It is very clear that the Kenyan 0bama’s visit to HI in 1971 was very important and necessary for Zero’s life to go forward legally. It also brings up the point of who was paying for all this international travel and upkeep? Hmm.

I do remember reading that Zero had no US passport until he became a Senator. So what nation’s passport and thus nationality was he using when he went to Kenya in (around?) 1983? Or Pakistan and also IIRC India, or was it the Hyderabad in Paki (maybe there was some confusion about whether he also visited India) with his rich politically connected Moslem buddy from Occidental? Was that before his trip to Kenya, I wonder?

I wonder if Zero is still “legally” Kenyan, then. If he is, what a freakshow! Since he has not a drop of Kenyan blood in his veins.


165 posted on 06/20/2013 9:55:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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