Edward Snowden: Hero or traitor?

Coach is Right ^ | 6/12/13 | Michael D. Shaw

[drewh]

or something in between...

[oblomov]

The Snowden affair has manifested the distinction between the true Constitutionalist right, and statists who are pro-Israel.

[muawiyah]

There's definitely a problem in this statement: " The State-worshippers will tell you that Snowden violated secrecy laws, so off with his head!"

Actually, Conservatism has a large number of TRADITIONALISTS and this guy betrayed them by violating his solemn oath.

That has nothing about worshipping the state, or violating secrecy laws ~ it's a betrayal of our ancestor's pledge of their lives, fortune and sacred honor.

Some of us still respect the Declaration of Independence.

[muawiyah]

You are wrong.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Snowden is not the story. The data is. Doesn’t matter what happens to him - he has played his part.

The data genie is never going back into the bottle - so all data should be made public and freely accessible over the web.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Edward Snowden, puppet of Obama.. False flag to wipe the other scandals out of the press and to divert Congress from those hearings. Also a nice distraction from the ‘Democrat voter recruitment program’ called ‘Immigration reform’.

[oblomov]

Why?

[muawiyah]

Your bifurcation is not applicable. Right off hand the big factions inside the Conservative movement are Traditionalists, Defense, Catholic (who are also Traditionalists), Right to Life, Southerners ~ and so on ~ probably more than 20 but no need to name them all.

There are no leftists in the Conservative movement, but there are among the Libertarians ~ who are NOT CONSERVATIVES!

The GOPe has hoodwinked a lot of folks into thinking that all we have are RTL and TEAParty factions ~ but that's simply not correct. You need to unhoodwink yourself.

[muawiyah]

The ‘data’ is primarily used to produce your telephone bills. Not likely it will ever be released for use by other companies ~

[DManA]

I reserve the right to withold that judgement for at least a year.

[manc]

correct.

we have a guy who told the world that obama and his thugs were lying about spying.

On the other side we have they have been saying for years or he took secrets but do not know what secrets or he moved to Hong Kong, sorry they mention China instead.

[manc]

I reserve the right to hold off until I am taken off the enemy list

[manc]

ah but the elitist thugs in VA and DC want us ot attack this guy and make him the issue instead of what oabma is and was doing

[Revolting cat!]

What a great dilemma, exposing the true believers of both sides.

[DManA]

Don’t misunderstand. Prism should NEVER have been kept secret. He did us a service by making it an issue.

There are just some kind of funny things about him.

[familyop]

I'll second muawiyah on that one. Wrong! The vast majority of "statists" (the various brands of government-linked politicos, socialists and their friends, the lying social aberrants) are anti-Israel. Common knowledge. Real Americans--about 80%--are pro-Israel.

Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003."

Most Israelis are probably also in favor of exposing unconstitutional, anti-American violations of privacy, while most fascists (e.g., typically homosexual neo-Nazis) and other socialists would obviously stand against our Fourth Amendment and First Amendment freedoms.

[manc]

Oh I AGREE on every word.

[oblomov]

I agree with your first paragraph.

I was referring to those who are “on the right” on foreign policy (e.g. Pro-Israel, pro-GWOT), but who take positions inimical to conservatism elsewhere (e.g. pro-amnesty, pro-Panopticon).

[Bluestocking]

The last time we had a tyranny in this country the British were in charge, and they would have hanged George Washington for treason if they could have.

Now that someone has finally stood up and fired the shot heard round the world to start the war against the Obama tyranny, of course, Obama supporters want him condemned for treason, too.

If Edward Snowden is not a hero, neither is George Washington. Neither is anyone.