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To: usconservative
“Can someone show me where this “design” exists?’

You know it as the welfare state.

When you raise taxes on the rich for more govt handout to provide goods and services to the poor, you aren't redistributing “WEALTH” to the poor from the rich, it's just the opposite. It's a paradox.

The rich are the ones providing the goods and services and in most cases they are getting paid more for the goods and services by the govt. than the goods and services cost to produce.

Food stamps is the perfect example. The poor don't pay less for the food they by with FS, they pay the same as everyone else that's shelling the money out of their pocket.

The wealth is being redistributed from people that have to pay for the goods and services out of their own pocket to the people providing the goods and services, the so called rich.

Raise taxes on the rich that provide goods and services, they raise their price. Those on the govt dole aren't out any wealth if prices go up, but the people that actually have to pay for the goods and services themselves are loosing their wealth every time prices go up.

Look who is paying the overwhelming taxes collected in this country especially the income tax. It's the rich.

With an overwhelming amount of tax revenue dependent on the top earners, the govt. cannot increase it's income from income taxes unless there is a plan to increase the income of the top earners that pay the tax.

The dems call this little plan of theirs “Trickle UP economics”, you actually increase the number of people in poverty to increase revenue to the govt.

Of course it's doomed to fail.

Eventually the middle class that actually pays the tax increase hidden as a price increase in goods and services, no longer has enough money to pay for goods and services that are beyond necessities and the whole system will come crashing down.

61 posted on 06/02/2013 9:40:12 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
The rich are the ones providing the goods and services and in most cases they are getting paid more for the goods and services by the govt. than the goods and services cost to produce.

Your proof of this allegation can be found where?

Yes, the reality is the top 5% pay over 40% (or more) of all taxes in this country, and the bottom 50% pay ZERO (followed by wealth re-distribution "tax credits") that however doesn't translate into your allegation that those at the top 1% are getting their money back through same redistribution scheme.

That's circular logic and it don't fly on this side of the keyboard.

65 posted on 06/02/2013 10:50:47 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: IMR 4350
The dems call this little plan of theirs “Trickle UP economics”, you actually increase the number of people in poverty to increase revenue to the govt.

Hmm, that would explain Pelosinomics (i.e. $1 in unemployment = $2 in tax revenue) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuagUCm9q7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t-eycEKXNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q06u0n9UfW0

The wealth is being redistributed from people that have to pay for the goods and services out of their own pocket to the people providing the goods and services, the so called rich.

Not to mention the fact that food stamps artificially prop up the price of food by giving poor people dollars with which to buy things they couldn't otherwise afford. For instance, the poor used to make do with beans and rice, etc. But with food stamps, they now drive up the demand - and therefore the price - for foods the middle class pay for out of their own pockets.
66 posted on 06/02/2013 11:25:33 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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