been saying this for at least ten years here, since i knew of’these studies.
to clarify, i have’been saying “being gay” is not genetic, because if it were, both identical twins would have to be gay, 100% of the time.
That is because they didn't have a "romantic attraction" they were only told they did.
There are four types of love; agape, eros, storge, philia. Roughly charity, sexual love, love of friends, love of family.
Although they have done their best to kill it, love of family is still understood but charity and love of friends have been successfully scrubbed from societal understanding.
So when you are female and have a best friend who is female for whom you have warm affection you are told that you must have a "girl crush" at best and that you are lesbian at worse.
If you are a male it is the same if not worse.
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Thanks for posting. Even the worst studies don’t show a possible correlation of more than chance. Meaning that you have the predictability of a coin flip of whether one twin will be or not. It doesn’t mean there isn’t biological contributors of course and I believe there are but its more like other complex traits like adultery and there are studies that show exactly that.
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002484.html
There are good reasons for encouraging what the ‘progressive’ sexual proponents label heteronormative society as there are also good reasons for encouraging what would be called monogamynormative society. It benefits through helping stabilize relationships and encourage the formation of biological families and move sex away from selfish aims and reign it in with a sense of responsibility. It also helps to minimize disease both mental and sexual something we have seen a rise in. Its not that there will not be exceptions but the rule is what keeps exceptions from becoming so great they destabilize social structure at a great cost. The same people pushing gay marriage also held up birth control and contraception as substitutes for morality and responsibility and we see how that has worked out. We have more broken families and more kids raised in environments where they are likely not to know or live with their father and these kids are far more likely to use illegal drugs, be depressed, and end up in prison. Now we are moving another step towards the abyss. Now we are openly encouraging the production of families where children will have a biological donor or surrogate rather than a father and a mother. We are producing a society where larger number of children by design will have less biological connections and that has shown to be a dangerous thing increasing risk of abuse for those kids no matter how well intentioned the circumstances may be. This also sets up what will be a need for an even greater role of government in family life. Now we will have the government redefining the very nature of normal familial relationships and forcing through law the norming of less stable family structures to satisfy pop cultural political correctness with the goal to make even suggesting that Men should marry women is bigotry and fully expect them to go the next step to make heterosexual marriage ‘uncool’ its wont be too far of a leap from what they’ve already been doing for the past 40 years.
So in the end the Feminists and leftist sexual progressives get what they wanted all along which is the end of the patriarchy and an end to the traditional family which they see as the basic structural unit of not just the patriarchy but also the capitalist system.
I could have told him that and saved the time and money. My previous husband was an identical twin, and his brother was gay. Actually, that was how I told them apart when I first met them. A while later I saw a photo of them at age 3, and I could tell which was which by the gay look on the other one’s face. Knowing their mother, I consider it a wonder that they weren’t both gay.
What difference does it make if it’s “genetic”?
I mean, obviously it isn’t, but if proof that it was were published tomorrow, it wouldn’t change any opinions I hold, not even a little bit.
Why does this keep coming up?
One is gay and the other is a homophobic hater who is actually gay but has not come out yet. That’s the only explanation. It’s all explained in the new Federal Employee Handbook.
For the Marxists, consistency with Natural Law is irrelevant. The control over human beings is the objective. Redefining marriage is the Trojan Horse to that ends.
Just remember, any means to justify totalitarian control is the objective. If it requires a surgical procedure, they will make sure the knife is sharp.
There is a heck of a lot more to biology than just genetics. For example, halfway through gestation, a male fetus will excrete a squirt of testosterone, which will travel to its brain to make it a “male” brain. If that testosterone does not arrive, by default, brains are “female”.
Importantly, a male or female or mixed brain in a human is *not* enough to determine their sexuality, just their masculine or feminine behaviors.
And it gets odder. Males have a small amount of estrogen in their bodies, and females have a small amount of testosterone in theirs. But females with more than the usual amount of testosterone generally have stronger libidos, and want and enjoy sex more.
Of course not. Homosexuality is a proclivity, a sexual degradation, a weakness of the mind.
God forbid my beautiful twin daughters, just 6 months old, were touched by the insidious proclivity of the homosexual agenda.
However, I know that their genetics are strong enough to fight any female weaknesses.
As their mother, I can attest against the homo agenda. I’ve never been inclined or even curious about what being gay might feel like. I know I’m a woman, and I have NEVER had the desire to ever try to imitate a man (no matter how flimsy of a man).
So, I freaking know that being a homo is not genetic, but a mental weakness given into perversion. And btw, I hate weakness!
Well, heck, I could have told you that!
It can’t be hereditary because if it was, it would have evolved out of the species by the simple fact that homosexual behavior is not reproductive. Dance with your own gender, you have no babies. End of the gene.
It isn’t rocket science.
Can you find a link, other than to this blog, and some references or links to the studies that the article refers to? Not that I don’t believe the article, but I would like to be able to back it up.
That said, it still could be some kind of birth defect, or perhaps due to exposure to something in our water/food/air (soy anyone?).
My fear is that this might be something physical, and preventable or treatable, but because both sides are so adamant, it will never be discovered.
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It’s something you talk yourself into over the years.
Interesting studies.
The science on homosexuals will not be conclusive for a long time. It will be likely decades before any evidence comes up that allows us to determine how many gays were homosexual by birth, how many actively chose it, how many were brought into it by homosexuals in their lives and how many were because of early childhood experiences, and how many are homosexual because of some combination of the above.
Of course, one should be able to effectively argue against messing with the millenia old definition of marriage and a special system of rights for homosexuals without trying to argue that being gay is curable for all, or even a vast majority, of homosexuals. For some of the homosexuals, yes they can get leave it. But we shouldn’t have to be arguing that *all* of them can leave it in order to argue effectively against the homosexual agenda. Start with the acknowledgement that there are many kinds of disorders and disabilities and behavior mannerisms people are often born with but that this still does not justify giving them special rights and that even then it shouldn’t justify giving free passes for obscene, destructive behavior. That seems to be the best starting points for arguments against got’v redefinition of marriage and other key issues.
Considering how likely it is that identical twins have similar experiences (being in the same families), these numbers are striking and suggest that such life decisions happen later in development than one might suspect.
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