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Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic
Holland Davis ^ | May-13-2013 | Mark Ellis

Posted on 06/01/2013 5:59:38 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Coleus

Duh. It is a mental illness encouraged by Marxists.


101 posted on 06/02/2013 5:10:04 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Today, this is largely a byproduct of boys raised by single moms.

That, and an increasingly feminized, emasculated society.

102 posted on 06/02/2013 5:37:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
... a male fetus will excrete a squirt of testosterone, which will travel to its brain to make it a “male” brain. If that testosterone does not arrive, by default, brains are “female”.

I believe that's pretty much a BS contrivance of politicized "science," meant to serve the pervert political agenda. There is no such thing as a "female brain" inside of a male.

103 posted on 06/02/2013 5:44:28 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: rottndog
Can you find a link, other than to this blog, and some references or links to the studies that the article refers to? Not that I don’t believe the article, but I would like to be able to back it up.

I had to get to your post #56 before I found one that stated the obvious. Why is this only reported on a pastor's blog?

104 posted on 06/02/2013 5:53:35 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: HerrBlucher
Homosexuals better hope it is not genetic cuz there will be an abortopalooza if homosexuality can ever be determined in the womb. What a conundrum that will be for liberals.

They will just declare that any test for a gay gene is a hate crime. Any scientist developing one will have all his grants cancelled. Any company producing such a test will be driven into bankruptcy. Any lab processing such a test will be burned.

This is known in advance. Nobody will produce such a test.

105 posted on 06/02/2013 6:05:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Salvavida

Agree, esp. among lesbians. I used to play a lot of softball (yes, I know) and evey lesbian I knew had been molested by a family member when they were young. Every single one.


106 posted on 06/02/2013 6:11:31 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Coleus

Deniers of science & reality continue to wrongly believe...

1. Homos are born that way
2. Man “evolved” from apes
3. Man-made global warming
4. Communism is good
5. allah/satan is their leader

Intellectual idiots - all of them!!!!


107 posted on 06/02/2013 6:14:10 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: fwdude

The research was done twice, first in the 1960s, by top researchers (one of whom I knew), then again in the 1980s, by the USG. Both times there was a very real concern that the use of plant estrogen, very chemically similar to human estrogen, by farmers, and other industrial chemicals, could interfere with this process, perhaps creating a generation of androgynous males.

The research itself was very detailed. Finding what chemicals could block the testosterone or mimic it, the lack of it reaching the brain of male test animals, or introduced to female test animals. They went so far as to provide it to just one hemisphere of the animals brains, and not the other. The same tests were conducted hundreds of times with the same result.

Importantly, in animals, this does come close to dictating their sexuality, since they have little gender identity that is not impulse driven. So males would act with female behavior to attract other males, and females would try to mount other females.

Those with divided brains exhibited both sexual behaviors, willing to mount or be mounted.

However, the research also showed that humans sexual attraction is far more complex than animals. Though human males would have slighter frames and a more androgynous appearance, the rate of heterosexuality was about the same. Women seemed divided on their attraction to more masculine or less masculine males, both by their personal preference, and by the time of their menstrual cycle.

Females with a “male” brain were more “tomboy” before adolescence, but were seen as *more* attractive to men as adults. However, by then, their serum testosterone level had more impact on their sexuality, if not their sexual orientation.


108 posted on 06/02/2013 6:32:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: newfreep

‘...intellectual idiots - all of them...”

Yes....!!!!

1. Ancient Rome/Greece ... male body worshipped/ not born, men like each other!!
2. law of entropy, no evolution, sorry
3.Algae sinks, carbon dioxide easily taken care of by earth
4.communism is atheism/ let the bribes begin
5 Satan is their leader - why are the the liberals in bed with the Islams? Rhetorical question

PS- I am not a bible thumping creationist


109 posted on 06/02/2013 7:26:09 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Coleus.


110 posted on 06/02/2013 2:21:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: headsonpikes

Androgynous Pat?


111 posted on 06/02/2013 5:58:19 PM PDT by thenewsblogger (Nancy from another planet.)
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To: zeebee
I had to get to your post #56 before I found one that stated the obvious. Why is this only reported on a pastor's blog?

I spent some time the other night looking for any info that backs up the claims of this article, and could find nothing. What studies published where and when? Until and unless I see the basis for the claims made herein, I have to call BS on this article.
112 posted on 06/02/2013 6:06:10 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: Bobalu

I thought of this after I posted the other post, was this picture taken in America???

I would think the parents and the doctor would be arrested for allowing a youth to do this irreparable harm to his body.


113 posted on 06/02/2013 7:28:18 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

They are in the States, the program is at Boston Children’s Hospital.

An endocrinologist can prescribe puberty blockers and other hormones without restriction... no law governs this. On the other hand no law protects a physician against lawsuits either.

Generally, puberty blockers are the first step followed later by estrogen.

Interestingly, testosterone is a controlled substance while estrogen is not. This is because of the misguided use of steroids by athletes and bodybuilders...a very stupid practice.


114 posted on 06/02/2013 8:26:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Ramius
Like... if there was a sterility gene. Seems that over time it would be less and less likely to pass itself to new generations.

Suppose there were a gene which reduced the reproductive success rate of male carriers to zero, but quadrupled the reproductive success rate of female carriers. Would the fact that the reproductive success rate of male carriers was dropped to zero cause the gene to die out of succeeding generations?

Personally, I very much doubt that there is a gay gene, but would think it likely that some generic factors affect the extent to which people are attracted to males, and other genetic factors affect the extent to which people are attracted to females. If males that have a stronger-than-normal attraction to females mate with females that have a stronger-than-normal attraction to males, then even if half of the children have the wrong 'unusually-strong attraction' gene for their sex (and are thus less likely to reproduce), the union may produce enough children to have a higher net reproductive success rate than would unions of people with "normal" levels of attraction.

On the other hand, even if homosexuality is in some measure genetic, so what? There are probably genetic factors that cause people to be unusually strongly attracted to children, but that even if someone is a pedophile because of genetics, that doesn't mean the person shouldn't be prosecuted if he acts upon those pedophile tendencies and becomes a child molester.

115 posted on 06/03/2013 4:19:07 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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