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To: Tuketu
"...s US Citizenship is required for the Pres."

I do not disagree with you Tuketu, but for majority who have not carefully read the Constitution, the Constitution left the definition of who were citizens to Congress, Article 1 Section 8, “An Uniform Rule for naturalization”. The Constitution only specified one class of citizen, a natural born citizen, because they considered the requirements for that office too critical to be left for Congress; no framer disagreed. The Constitution didn't include definitions of terms in the document, since our Constitution was built upon what was known then as “natural law”, or “The Law of Nations”. That was “common law”. These were terms familiar to most everyone, as indicated by the lack of any argument after John Jay reminded Washington to require natural born citizen as a presidential requirement.

There are two classes of citizens of the US, natural born, and naturalized. Naturalized citizens were defined by Congress. Natural born citizens were so defined by God, or nature. Barack Obama told us honestly that he was born a British subject, and became a naturalized citizen based upon the 14th Amendment. His language, on his own web site, fightthesmears.com, used the obscure term "native-born citizen of the US", which comes from the 14th Amendment, which nowhere mentions natural born citizenship. "Native-born" refers to those born on our soil. The 14th Amendment didn't even make all of those "native-born" into citizens. American Indians, certainly native-born, were not made citiens. But former slaves were, and that was the motivation for finally creating "An Uniform Rule for Naturalization". Obama, presumably born in Hawaii, is a naturalized citizen, and he said exactly that.

There has been complicity by both political parties to avoid any legal discussion of the issue. No eligibility case has been allowed to reach discovery. Such is the depth of corruption. Even with dozens of failed attempts to amend Article II Section 1, no congress has passed out an amendment for a 3/4 vote by the states. Seven amendment attempts alone between 2000 and 2007.

Why were Republicans silent? Because McCain had been shown in hearing after hearing, mostly instigated by Democrats, to be ineligible. We are burying the Constitution, but it is still useful to acknowledge the wisdom of our framers and founders. Natural born citizens are citizens, as Chief Justice Waite noted in Minor v. Happersett, but citizens are not necessarily natural born citizens. Otherwise every anchor baby would be eligible to the presidency, and the child born in a colony or state of royalists, residents of the Colonies who retained allegiance to the Crown after 1776, would have been eligible to the presidency. Our founders who had seen their relatives and friends massacred by the British would not have been so foolish, and weren't.

82 posted on 06/01/2013 2:13:29 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

JMO but “Anchor Babies” are NOT Citizens because they were born to parents subject to a foreign power, sic excluded by, I believe the 14th A. Also The Civil Rights Act of 1866 just granted citizenship to all persons born in the United States if they were not subject to a foreign power.


199 posted on 06/02/2013 4:15:46 PM PDT by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. We need a solvent)
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