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To: True Grit
Mainstream news sources such as Rawstory and Media Matters have attacked Fox News’ Lou Dobbs and others for their statements affirming that the government has indeed purchased at least 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (especially including hollow points), 7000 fully automatic assault rifles, and 2700 new light armored vehicles, as well as riot gear including body armor.

And they were rightfully attacked, as the the government HASN'T purchased 1.6 billion rounds (it's actually a contract to buy up to 750,000 rounds over THE NEXT FIVE YEARS) and DHS purchases in 2012 were lower than in 2011. And they didn't buy 2,700 light armored vehicles.

Lie or make stupid mistakes, and you deserve to be mocked.

5 posted on 05/21/2013 5:30:45 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

DHS officials testified last week that it was only planning to purchase up to 750 million rounds of ammunition for training centers and law enforcement over the next five years. The agency’s spokesman, Peter Boogaard, told Congress that the media reports are ‘misleading’. But Boogard also mentioned a second five-year contract for up to 450 million rounds of ammunition for law enforcement purposes. Together, the two DHS contracts for ammunition would result in purchases of up to 1.2 billion rounds of ammo.


6 posted on 05/21/2013 5:42:47 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Strategerist

Couldn’t have said it better!
This is Mad Hatter stuff.
These are the same folks who fear our armed forces, bearing arms against our citizens. Obviously people with a shockingly limited experience with military or law enforcement.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 5:43:14 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Strategerist
the government HASN'T purchased 1.6 billion rounds

You are correct sir. It is a series of Indefinite Delivery Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contracts that are standard in government purchasing that establish minimum and maximum ranges for purchases over several years (in this case, five years). The 1.6 billion is a summation of the maximums from all IDIQ contracts over five years. It's pretty clear that DHS has NOT even ordered that amount, much less paid for it and had it delivered. The point of an IDIQ bid is that by creating the possibility of large purchasing ranges, you get the best possible price from the supplier.

In the case of the 450 million round maximum contract, the minimum guarantee purchase is for 10,000 rounds in the first year only. Any further purchases and all extension years are optional.

All of this information is public knowledge and has been discussed in the press and here on FR many times, but folks continue to rant about it.

10 posted on 05/21/2013 6:08:47 PM PDT by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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