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To: Red Steel; Seizethecarp; DiogenesLamp; Nero Germanicus; Jeff Winston
Madness reigns here. Barack Hussein Obama is the DE FACTO POTUS. The fact that he has achieved the office twice, despite constitutional ineligibility, is pretty damn clear. But Kenny, he is elig...yadda yadda yadda bullshiite)

The question remains, is he the DE JURE POTUS? An ineligible candidate was certified, ran, and won. Just like Chester Arthur, who is now ... 140 years later .... proven to have lied. He was born in Canada and his father was a British Subject. Furthermore, Chet cruised under a false ID, his dead brother's. President Arthur remains in the history book list. So will Barack Hussein Obama. Is that DE JURE enough for us purists?

Was the BC, SS, and Selective Service paperwork forged? Sure was. That was a crime. Who is going to arrest whom? Who is going to indict whom? Who is supposed to try whom?

By now every elected Republican and every elected Democrat with a brain remaining knows as much as we do. Maybe more. And that is still Barack Hussein Obama flying over your house in AF 1 with Reggie Love by his side.

I am quite sure that this cognitive dissonance ... an ineligible candidate elected ... was designed to foster mental chaos in furtherance of the Socialist Revolution.

So what are we to do? Damn good question. My answer is :

DON'T GO NUTS.
WIN CONGRESS IN 2014

If WE (another interesting question there) don't win control of BOTH the House and Senate, The Socialist Revolution will have been advanced by 25 years or more, especially if we come up with another wimp to run against the machine in '16.

That means we can go on discussing the subject of this thread in our spare time in a Gulag for the Politically Incorrect.

I know I am about to be severely napalm-flamed for recommending that we temporarily drop a cause near to our hearts in order to merely save the Republic. But, if you are not cashing a SCOTUS paycheck, I really don't care what your opinion is on Wong King Kong vs Aunt Kenny vs Haberstett und Michelob. And if Sheriff Joe, may Christ keep him close, cannot get even the DA of Maricopa County to listen, I am prepared to backburner The Cold Case Posse for a while, too.

The bandwidth I have just used would, IMNVHO, have been far better invested in winning Congress in '14. Since the rest of the thread is tossing Latin about, allow me to share my new motto with you:

Ad Victoriam in 14
Pari Passu.

143 posted on 04/30/2013 7:06:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: Kenny Bunk

This issue is academic. It has no real world consequences regardless of what is stated at this point. It is now just entertainment.


147 posted on 04/30/2013 7:47:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The Constitutional requirements to be “de jure” President are:
(1) Win a majority of the votes of the Electors;
(2) Have those Electoral votes counted and certified by a Joint Session of Congress without written objection from any one Senator or any one Representative;
(3) Remain alive and not infirmed to the point of being unable to execute the duties of president between the confirmation of the votes of the Electors and noon on Inauguration Day; and
(4) take the Oath of Office.
De jure status is further confirmed by having Congress send bills to be signed into law and by arsenate confirmation of Presidential nominees.


A federal judge spelled it out in 2009:
Barnett, Keyes, et. al. v. Obama, et. al., US District Court Judge David O. Carter: “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.

Plaintiffs attempt to subvert this grant of power to Congress by convincing the Court that it should disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president. The process for removal of a sitting president—REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON—is within the province of Congress, not the courts.”—U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, October 29, 2009
http://ia600204.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591.89.0.pdf


154 posted on 04/30/2013 10:55:41 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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