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To: Jeff Winston
Unless you can demonstrate that your so-called authorities were Delegates or ratifiers, it is nothing else. The ONLY people who can opine on the meaning of Article II are the delegates and ratifiers of it. Ex post facto Lawyers are crap evidence.

And it doesn't matter how MANY of them you come up with.

Hahahahaha!

So now you're telling us that all of your quotes of Bingham, and Vattel, and Senator Lyman Trumbull, and Minor v. Happersett are all TOTAL BS, since none of them were delegates to the Convention, or ratifiers?

Why do I talk to you? You quote me above with the explicit words "on the meaning of Article II" and are so stupid to ask why we talk about Bingham? Bingham is NOT an authority on article II. Do you know on what he is an Authority? THE FOURTEENTH F***ING AMENDMENT!!!!" When we are discussing *THAT*, he is a legitimate authority.

114 posted on 04/29/2013 2:55:07 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Why do I talk to you? You quote me above with the explicit words "on the meaning of Article II" and are so stupid to ask why we talk about Bingham? Bingham is NOT an authority on article II. Do you know on what he is an Authority? THE FOURTEENTH F***ING AMENDMENT!!!!" When we are discussing *THAT*, he is a legitimate authority.

Now, now. Temper, temper. Remember what Mommy told you. :-)

And, you might also take note that posters here are requested to "Please remember to use courtesy when posting, refrain from personal attacks and do not use profane or obscene language," you know.

So first of all, your claim that all of the genuine legal authorities in history, who dedicated their lives to understanding our legal system, aren't worth cold spit, and that YOU are so much more of a legal authority than these esteemed and learned gentlemen (and occasionally, gentlewomen) throughout our American history is complete and total hogwash.

But I'm going to let that pass for the moment. I have a question to ask you.

So in your opinion, Mr. Genius...

Did the 14th [expletive deleted] Amendment (which I shall henceforth refer to simply as the "14th Amendment"), which never mentioned the words "natural born," or "natural born citizen," change or modify or alter the meaning of that term in Article II of our Constitution?

Yes, or no.

123 posted on 04/29/2013 5:09:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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