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To: SvenMagnussen

Before I concede anything, I want to make a request of you.

Answer the questions put to you on this and many other threads, answer them in THIS thread, since the title is applicable.

Other threads questions, see especially #4 and #11:

Part Five - Fuddy Illegally Executes the Plan Butterdezillion’s Blog ^ | April 8, 2013 | butterdezillion

Posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 14:22:24 GMT-0500 (CDT) by butterdezillion

To: butterdezillion

Regardless of where Obama was born and who is parents are,Obama has a Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983. Federal documents supersede state level documents. SCOTUS has held in many cases naturalized U.S. Citizens are not eligible to be President.

3 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 14:30:36 GMT-0500 (CDT) by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: SvenMagnussen

Butterdezillion has a pile of evidence backing her claims.

What do you have to support your claim “Obama has a Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983”?

4 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 14:39:49 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: SvenMagnussen

You keep saying that and have thus far outright refused to provide a scintilla of proof for your claim.

6 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 15:06:47 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Vendome (Don’t take life so seriously, you won’t live through it anyway) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: Vendome

Obama’s immigration records are subject to the Privacy Act. Even if the Privacy Act were violated and Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization were published,it’s inadmissible in Court.

Only Obama or an official speaking for the custodian of the Federal Government’s immigration records can provide his Certificate of Naturalization to the Court.

8 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 15:46:23 GMT-0500 (CDT) by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: SvenMagnussen

Thank you for finally responding and admitting there is currently no evidence for your claim.

10 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 16:04:58 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Vendome (Don’t take life so seriously, you won’t live through it anyway) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: SvenMagnussen

“Obama’s immigration records are subject to the Privacy Act”

If they are private then how the hell do you know about what’s in his records?

11 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 16:08:30 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Cold Case Posse Supporter [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies | Report Abuse]


56 posted on 04/08/2013 3:43:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Like a birth certificate, Obama can obtain a certified copy of his Certificate of Naturalization, Form SS-5, Application for SSN and NUMIDENT file from SSA. Any naturalized citizen can obtain these documents held by various Federal agencies by paying a filing fee and submitting proof they are entitled to receive a certified copy of these documents.

Like a birth certificate, these documents can be obtained by Obama and shown to others. He could allow others to photograph, video tape or electronically record the documents. Or he could allow another person to examine the document, but not record or photograph the document.

You, and a few others, seem to think I haven’t seen the documents because I can’t post a photograph, pdf or video of the documents I have stated to be in existence. I have specifically withheld information on when, where and under what circumstance I obtained my direct knowledge of the documents through eye-witness examination because I could be called as a rebuttal witness in a civil suit.

A rebuttal witness can only be used to impeach a primary witness; such as, Obama or Janet Napolitano. Janet Napolitano is the custodian of all U.S. Federal Government immigration records. A rebuttal witness cannot be called to present direct evidence of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization because the rebuttal witness is not the custodian of the records.

This information is clearly explained in the FRCP. Give it a try. I’ll help. I read the FRCP for the first time about 3 weeks ago.


66 posted on 04/08/2013 6:24:45 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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