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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“... I think you need to be prepared for hard questions and have your evidence ready to back your claims up because these claims of yours will be now investigated on a larger scope. Attorney Mario Apuzzo’s client Cdr. Charles Kerchner has chimed in on his thoughts at the source link and stated you need to show some evidence.”

Wonderful! First, I like CDR Kerchner, or preferably Mario Apuzzo, to explain the Fed Rules of Civil Procedure to me and others with regard to presenting evidence with a complaint in a civil suit.

I’m not a lawyer, but I understand allegations are made and the Judge is to read those allegations as true until the defendant successfully defends himself or presents a case the allegations do not have merit. At a minimum, the defendant could state the allegation I naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1983 is not true.

It is at this time the discovery process begins. The plaintiff can subpoena Obama to obtain and bring a certified copy of his Certificate of Naturalization to a deposition. If he ignores the subpoena or lies under oath, then the defense and the Court are notified a rebuttal witness will be called at trail to impeach Obama’s testimony the Certificate of Naturalization does not exist or is unobtainable.

Furthermore, the plaintiff can subpoena corroborating evidence. For example, a subpoena could be issued for Obama to obtain a certified copy of his original Form SS-%, Application for SSN and NUMIDENT file available through SSA. Certainly, Obama won’t testify these documents don’t exist. If so, a rebuttal witness can be called at trial to testify the documents do exist and are obtainable.

Obama’s Form SS-5 and NUMIDENT file will show he applied as a permanent resident alien in 1977 because he did not naturalize until 1983. Any evidence I have to prove Obama naturalized in 1983 is inadmissible because I do not own or control the documents. Only the Federal agency and Obama have the right to own and control these documents. Consequently, these documents cannot be submitted with a complaint in a civil suit. Any evidence or corroborating evidence obtained outside of discovery will be ignored by the Court.

I hope Mario can explain this to us in detail so we can focus making allegations against Obama and getting to discovery.


40 posted on 04/08/2013 12:47:23 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“Wonderful! First, I like CDR Kerchner, or preferably Mario Apuzzo, to explain the Fed Rules of Civil Procedure to me and others with regard to presenting evidence with a complaint in a civil suit.”

Why does it have to be Mario to explain it to you? Why can’t you just call a local criminal and civil attorney to have it explained to you? Therefore you would have your answers in probably a much quicker time frame.


41 posted on 04/08/2013 1:05:31 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: SvenMagnussen
"I’m not a lawyer, but I understand allegations are made and the Judge is to read those allegations as true until the defendant successfully defends himself or presents a case the allegations do not have merit."

The allegations that you seem to want to see happen, will never get past the clerk. It would be deemed a fishing expedition at best.

Judge, I believe Barry naturalized in 1983. I have zero proof of this and in fact, I only heard about it on the internet. I therefore need you to order discovery, pronto."

Denied - lack of standing.

Oh, and the plaintiff that went on such a fishing expedition - your fined 50K by the court.

46 posted on 04/08/2013 1:20:13 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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