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To: Fred Nerks
Our group has searched high and low for confirmation of this commonly held belief, and found nothing so far, other than the first three numbers which denote the State of issue are the same. Have you found anything further that shows the numbers are the SAME?

There are data bases commonly used by private detectives in the United States on which one can do a reverse Social Security number trace. (Input a Social Security number, and out comes the name and addresses of the individual or (in the rare case of an irregularity) individuals to whom that number was assigned.) The identity of the deceased individual previously assigned the SSN used by Obama has been explicitly mentioned on FR. He was a man born in 1890 and who died around 1980, IIRC. Orly Taitz and Susan Daniels are among those who have publicly stated the name of that individual. Since the Social Security Administration has a strict policy of never re-issuing a number already assigned, it is presumed that the Connecticut SSN used by Obama was never legally issued to him.

162 posted on 04/09/2013 3:41:17 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Are you referring to Jean Paul LUDWIG?


163 posted on 04/09/2013 3:42:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: justiceseeker93

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/private-investigators-respond-to-snopes.html

Private Investigators Respond To Snopes Article
On Obama’s Connecticut Social Security Number

Private Investigators respond to Leftist husband and wife team called Snopes regarding their latest piece on Obama’s Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants.

Response from private investigators Susan Daniels and Niel Sankey:

Susan Daniels: SNOPES is right. Obama is not using Jean Paul Ludwig’s CT social security number. He is using someone else’s. And in their delight in denouncing the use of Ludwig’s, they include a new addition to the Social Security Administration’s website that says a person does not have to live in the state for which the number has been set aside. That was never written there before Obama’s fraudulent use of his number was challenged...


Seems the bottom line is, THEY DO NOT KNOW.


165 posted on 04/09/2013 3:53:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: justiceseeker93

As far as I know, Susan Daniels has not linked a name to the SSN used by Obama.

She has said it is not Bounel.


171 posted on 04/09/2013 11:07:46 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: justiceseeker93
"The identity of the deceased individual previously assigned the SSN used by Obama has been explicitly mentioned on FR. He was a man born in 1890 and who died around 1980, IIRC. Orly Taitz and Susan Daniels are among those who have publicly stated the name of that individual. Since the Social Security Administration has a strict policy of never re-issuing a number already assigned, it is presumed that the Connecticut SSN used by Obama was never legally issued to him."

Obama has been using the SSN in question since 1977. The SSA has access to many databases which allow it to identify fraud.

Government Information Exchange http://www.ssa.gov/gix/eprojects.html

Existing Services

American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA)

The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA), acting as an information conduit between Motor Vehicle Administrations (MVAs) and SSA, submits data electronically to SSA when a person either applies for a driver's license or applies to vote (based on the Help America Vote Act of 2002). In return SSA provides SSN verification for voter registration, driver's licenses and applicants for a MVA issued identification card. AAMVA, in turn, forwards the results to the requesting MVAs. SSA provides this data under written agreements between SSA and AAMVA and SSA and the requesting state MVA.

Internet-Electronic Death Registration (I-EDR)

IEDR is a web-based application designed to allow a State's Bureau of Vital Statistics to verify decedent Social Security numbers using the internet. These jurisdictions provide SSA with notification of deceased persons, enabling SSA to timely administer programs for beneficiaries of decedents.

SSA Access to State Records Online (SASRO)

A special arrangement to provide SSA field office personnel with direct electronic access to State records such as human services (TANF/Medicaid/Food Stamps), wage, unemployment, vital statistics (birth/death records), and workers compensation. This provides immediate savings by allowing personnel to remain at their work stations, eliminating time and expense for onsite visits as well as costs for recording, photocopying, etc.

State Online Query (SOLQ)

Under written agreements between SSA and the requesting agency, the State Online Query (SOLQ) allows States' real-time online access to SSA's Social Security Number (SSN) verification service and, if permitted, retrieval of Title 2 and/or Title 16 data. SOLQ enables State personnel with authorization to rapidly obtain information they need to qualify individuals for programs. For additional process information, agencies should contact their local SSA Regional Office Coordinator.

State Verification Exchange System (SVES)

Under written agreements between SSA and the requesting agency, the State Verification Exchange System (SVES), provides States and some Federal agencies with a standardized method of Social Security Number (SSN) verification and uniform data response for Title 2 and/or Title 16 data. Not all agencies are entitled to all data available via SVES. To address this concern, SSA has five different versions of SVES, which, depending on the data requested and the intended purpose, are available to requesting agencies.

Note: The listed services and connections are not all-inclusive of what is currently available through Social Security Administration.


If Obama were fraudulently using a SSN since 1977, long before he entered politics, the SSA would have caught it through its information database exchange services.


172 posted on 04/10/2013 3:40:44 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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