Natufian, here is the post from the “o naturalized in 1983 “ thread
To: ConstantSkeptic
“The biggest problem with Sven’s allegations is that the U.S. Department of State and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security are formally on record with their denial that Obama was ever a citizen of Indonesia and their assertion that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”
Not true. DOS and DHS did not make a positive “assertion that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”
DOS and DHS made a denial of the “allegation” of the plaintiff sufficient to avoid a default judgment in favor of the plaintiff. A denial in an answer to a lawsuit does not require a positive assertion that Barry IS NBC or WAS born in HI or provision of any evidence or citation of any case law.
Here is what DOS and DHS denied:
“To the extent this paragraph alleges that PresidentObama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, that allegation is denied. Specifically,Defendants deny that President Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere outside the state of Hawaii.”
Note the lawyerly parsing. They don’t say Barry is NBC or that he was born in HI. If they did that they could be forced to defend such claims with evidence if the matter went to trial.
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Note the lawyerly parsing. They don’t say Barry is NBC or that he was born in HI. If they did that they could be forced to defend such claims with evidence if the matter went to trial.
Sorry, I'd have to disagree. The lawyer specifically said that Obama wasn't "born ....anywhere outside of the state of Hawaii." That can only mean he was they are stating he was born in Hawaii. There are actively denying that he was born anywhere but Hawaii.
Try put it into other words yourself and see how you get on.