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To: Little Ray
Wow. Then OBVIOUSLY Chicago doesn’t have a “murder” problem - they have a problem with bodies showing up dead!

75% of ‘murders’ in Chicago go unsolved.

So by the English murder rate accounting standards their murder rate is at least 1/4th of what it would be going by American accounting standards.

Wow - what an ingenous way to lower the murder rate.

I heard this morning on AM radio that the rate of RAPE in the UK is twice that in the USA.

8 posted on 03/29/2013 10:49:51 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
Wow. Then OBVIOUSLY Chicago doesn’t have a “murder” problem - they have a problem with bodies showing up dead! 75% of ‘murders’ in Chicago go unsolved.

Or as Whoopi might put it, "It's not 'murder' murder."

9 posted on 03/29/2013 10:51:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: allmendream
75% of ‘murders’ in Chicago go unsolved.

Including those five Trinity Church members' unsolved deaths.

11 posted on 03/29/2013 11:18:14 AM PDT by bgill
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To: allmendream
75% of ‘murders’ in Chicago go unsolved. So by the English murder rate accounting standards their murder rate is at least 1/4th of what it would be going by American accounting standards.

Looking at the referenced British document, when they say "homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction", the full quote is

Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction, or where the person is not prosecuted on grounds of self defence or otherwise. This reduces the apparent number of homicides by between 13 per cent and 15 per cent.
In other words, if the subsequent trial determines the killer was not guilty of murder (eg, it was self defense or accident), then the incident is subtracted from the murder statistic.

The US murder rate is artificially high, however, because if a case is initially logged as murder, but the trial determines it was self-defense, the US stat is NOT adjusted.

12 posted on 03/29/2013 11:19:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: allmendream

Those are what the author could identify as murder. There are apparently still a fair number of murders that might be obscured by the peculiar practices of the UK justice system. Take it up with the author and let him explain it. I just thought it was interesting in light of the gun (people) control debate.


14 posted on 03/29/2013 12:08:38 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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