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Commentary from Russ Roberts, David Min, Jeff Connaughton, Nicole Gelinas, James Kwak, and Mike "Mish" Shedlock in order:


1 posted on 03/20/2013 4:57:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama; 1010RD
Maybe—but the real problem was, and still is, the coddling of creditors
Russ Roberts

Tough question. It’s like asking whether chemotherapy is worth it even if you’re not sure you’ve got cancer. Neither choice is attractive. Much better to avoid a suspicion of cancer in the first place.

Policymakers faced very unpleasant choices in 2008. It would have been better to have avoided the mistakes that let banks get so large in the first place. The coddling of creditors beginning with Continental Illinois in 1984 encouraged lenders to be reckless even as banks became increasingly leveraged. The potential for creditor rescue encouraged banks to become larger and more interconnected.

The key question is whether we should have let the first big bank die in March 2008—Bear Stearns. Letting Bear Stears go bankrupt might have had unpleasant consequences. But by making sure that all of Bear’s creditors received 100 cents on the dollar when its obligations were assumed by JP Morgan Chase, the government sent a powerful signal to the market that lenders would be made whole once again, despite having made lousy loans.

When Lehman Brothers was allowed to go bankrupt, Reserve Primary, a money market fund, “broke the buck” and helped create the panic, such as it was, when Lehman died. But why did a money market fund lend to Lehman Brothers when it was well-known that Lehman’s balance sheet looked a lot like Bear’s? Surely Reserve Primary reasoned that Lehman’s creditors would be rescued—so why not take the extra return that Lehman offered? Had Bear been allowed to die, the subsequent damage would have been smaller.

The coddling of creditors is the single most damaging policy mistake of the past three decades. If we can stop the cycle of creditor rescue, banks will shrink naturally and too-big-to-fail will no longer be relevant.

Russ Roberts is a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution and the host of the award-winning podcast, EconTalk.


2 posted on 03/20/2013 5:01:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes. They should have died. We should be planning to kill those, that surpassed. No biggie, thanks for asking.


3 posted on 03/20/2013 5:08:10 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: 1rudeboy

While I mostly agree with Nicole Gelinas premises, I strongly disagree with her conclusion. Had we let the banks “die and die hard”, we probably would not be debating this issue today. We would be too busy shooting each other over the last cans of tuna fish in this country.

DC had a set of bad choices in 2008 and decided to try and keep credit, the lifeblood of our economy, somewhat flowing. I believe that they did about 60% of what needed to be done. More work needs to be done, especially in the swap, reinsurance, derivative, and hedge fund area. I would really like to see the largest financial firms get broken up into smaller business segments and truly get the depository institutions out of the risk business period.

Sooner or later, some od these greedy bastards are going think they are smarter than they actually are and this problem will come about again. The big question at that point is whether the US government, already starting to lose its luster as the “ultimate safest borrower”, will actually have the ability to effectively intervene next time.


5 posted on 03/20/2013 5:22:57 AM PDT by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Fear the Boom and Bust” a Hayek vs. Keynes Rap Anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk


6 posted on 03/20/2013 5:27:06 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes. Bad decisions should lead to bad consequences. Instead, we have a system where profits are privatized and losses are socialized.


11 posted on 03/20/2013 6:33:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes, without a single doubt.

LLS


15 posted on 03/20/2013 7:48:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 1rudeboy
"...Wall Street ran to Washington and asked to be saved..."

Let's all finish our play time and revisit the planet earth.  This is Wall St.:

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For hundreds of years that where it's been and it never once 'ran to Washington' or anywhere else for that matter.  OK, so maybe he meant them rich pin-stripe banker traders types.  Yeah right.   OK, so he's really talking about the "hundreds of billions of dollars in bailout money went to the financial institutions—and their executives—of Wall Street."  So when "hundreds of billions of dollars" were paid back we call that Washington running to Wall St. begging for a reverse bailout?

Hardly

17 posted on 03/20/2013 2:00:32 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: 1rudeboy

Corrupt global fascists making dirty debt deals with corrupt global socialists. Death penality.


18 posted on 03/20/2013 2:48:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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