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To: whattajoke

HHTVL and I were having a respectful discussion on specific scientific topics. I’m sure you resort to ridicule because you don’t have any actual answers. It’s a common tactic. Perhaps you could step your game up and attack some straw men in your next post.

As far as the funding goes, it’s not debatable. The money for the museum is a drop in the ocean compared to the government money spent on research from an evolutionary perspective. How many natural history museums are there in the U.S.? How many of them receive government funding?

“religious dogma based on nothing”
If your theory says something should take millions of years and it takes 36, the scientific deduction is “there might be a problem with our explanation of this.” If you’re really holding on to a religious dogma, the reaction is “this is great evidence for our theory.”


133 posted on 03/20/2013 7:57:18 PM PDT by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Gil4
I’m sure you resort to ridicule because you don’t have any actual answers.

No. I resort to ridicule because I'm talking to an adult who believes in Bronze Age mythology over 21st century science. I was respectful, years ago, but there is not point to that anymore. You deserve ridicule. You believe in liars and promote pure garbage masquerading as "science." And judging by your level of discourse and the modicum of scientific concepts you clearly understand, I have even less respect for you.

Because you know better. You know this line of thought your pursuing is nonsense. You don't WANT it to be nonsense, because your particular brand of Christianity tells you so. You are promoting ignorance. I ridicule that and I don't say sorry.

As for the whole "36 years" issue, I'm sure HHTVL is doing a fine job explaining it to you. Here are a few bullet points to help:
1. "36 years" to a lizard represents more generations than it does for you. 2. Island biogeography changes the playing field enormously. 3. Isolated/small populations of anything evolve WAY faster than "average."

You are arguing about a evolutionary concept (change in allele frequency through time) that you, as a creationist, don't even accept is evolutionary change. So what's it to you? A minor physiological change in the stomach structure of some lizard you never heard of?

Real scientists made this discovery using real science. All of it created by other scientists following scientific precepts. Is it an anomaly? Not really. There are lizards in the SW US that have genetically distinct populations in different isolated mud puddles. This is how evolution works sometimes: small populations become isolated and become genetically distinct. Over those millions of years you don't believe in, those changes become more prevalent and more pronounced - even to the point where creationist know-nothings would say, "Herpdee-derp, it's a different kind!" whatever that means.

Creationists simply go through life finding tiny little things in the mountains of scientific papers that they find hard to believe. They don't actually do any research themselves. They are literary critics whose inability to grasp how evolution and molecular genetics work allows them to sit back, laugh a fake annoying laugh and say "God Did it."

That's it. That's all.
136 posted on 03/21/2013 5:12:36 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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