Posted on 03/11/2013 12:15:07 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Respected constitutional scholar and lawyer Herb Titus sits down to explain what a true Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen is. Herb Titus credentials are impeccable when it comes to the matter of Constitutional Law and our founders original intent, especially on the subject of the presidency. Titus gives a clear understandable meaning of why the founders wanted to have a natural born Citizen ONLY for the presidential requirement to hold the executive office of the United States. It is clear after listening to Herb Titus in the two part video that you will understand why Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Barack Obama are not constitutionally eligible to hold the office of the presidency.
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I agree.
Yes it does!
Also it looks like he can’t make up his mind which avenue to pursue; see post #209.....
Sven is the “he” in “....he can’t make up his mind .....”
According to dozens of people I've spoken to, everyone above a certain age was taught in civics class that NBC meant having two citizen parents.
Depending on the argument, it was either well-known or not known at all until Obama took office.
Place for this learned discussion, from which as always I learn something, or have something I thought I knew challenged,... well its place is not here entre nous us intellectual paragons.
This discussion should be taking place at the SCOTUS. Bunch a black-robed bumkissers sitting around the card table trading constitutional jargon of a high order. Clerks rushing in with drinks, towels, bandages as needed.
It's what we pay the wrinkled old bastards for; to take cases on appeal. Plenty of such cases have reached the office, only to be rejected on highly suspicious grounds. Do your job boys and girls. Enquiring minds want to know.
Me, for instance. Kenny needs to know what a citizen is. Is the offshoot of a coupla illegal aliens a citizen? What is a natural born Citizen? (Note constitutionally correct capitalization.) Can we please get this straight? I have lived in a number of countries and they don't seem to have this problem, or at least as badly as we do. You either is, or you ain't.
Now don't take any of this personally, FReepers, whether you agree with me or not. But if your paycheck isn't coming from the SCOTUS, you could be wrong. I could be wrong. Until this effeminate son of a Kenyan came along, it was traditional that natural born meant that both a your parents were citizens, or so I was taught. That simplistic back-country notion might be way off base, which is why I need the boys up at the SCOTUS to please do their job and straighten me out one way or the other.
Now about this Hawaii situation. If the guy's father wasn't an American citizen, I personally don't give a rat's pudendum if he was born while his mother slid into home plate in Honolulu on the Fourth of July with the Marine Band playing The Star Spangled Banner. (I would however, have paid good money to have seen that.)
Carry on with Minor vs Wong Kim Happenstood vs any utility citations to be named. You birth certificate guys carry on with your pixilations and forgeries. (DUH! Of course they're fake. Don't bug me. See if you can get'em into a court.)
So, don't flame me back. Flame the SCOTUS. They're paid to take the heat. And, they owe me an explanation or two.
Either you’re a citizen of the United States or not. To put a qualifier before “citizen” is a violation of the 5th Amendment. The only qualifier Constitutionally permitted is natural born citizen with respect to the qualifications of POTUS and VPOTUS.
There is no definitive description of the term natural born citizen. Consequently, the only way to determine who is qualified for POTUS and VPOTUS is to determine who is not qualified. The only citizen SCOTUS has determined not qualified, who meets age and residency requirements, is a citizen who obtained their citizenship by completing the naturalization process prescribed by the INA.
Obama naturalized in 1983 and that is the only reason he is not qualified for POTUS.
I’m not lawyer. But, at least, I’ve finally figured out you don’t need evidence to file a civil suit. All you need is allegations. The defendant will have to deny the allegations before a discussion between the Court and the litigants about discovery can begin.
And if you can’t get past a motion to dismiss, then harassing me or anyone else about evidence is a waste of time. There are plenty of other reasons to harass someone besides demanding proof of Obama’s eligibility if you can’t get past a motion to dismiss.
You might want to commit F.R.C.P. 45(a) to memory. Also, Rule 26(f) ... a party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f). But first, read my post on serving the President a summons, complaint as an individual ... http://svenmagnussen.blogspot.com/2013/03/serving-summons-complaint-on-president.html ... very important!
Send to Mike Zullo your information!
If necessary send an affidavit about what you saw!
(below is the post where you mentioned you saw it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2963803/posts?page=16#16
Many thanks, WH57
Gosh, Sven, that is shocking news ... so much so that I damn near choked on my lutefisk. Why not take that to someone who can do something about it? You know, like a judge?
Consequently, the only way to determine who is qualified for POTUS and VPOTUS is to determine who is not qualified.
The way things work here is that we are not qualified to make that call. If he says he's qualified, and you don't agree, it's court time. Since the courts refuse to hear your case on its merits, and not one authorized official in the entire land accepts our point of view as a cause for action, I reckon we are just about SOL until the gay Kenyan pirouettes from office.
Now, what about Rubio?
Arpaio and Zullo are protecting Napolitano from criminal prosecution. Thus, the reason they stay focused on the sealed and archived original long form BC. In the eyes of the Court, sealed and archived documents do not exist and have never existed.
Read the F.R.C.P.! It can be very useful.
>> “Consequently, only naturalized U.S. citizens are not eligible to be President or VP of the U.S” <<
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Simply not true. Only a Natural Born citizen qualifies.
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Sven. You say “Arpaio and Zullo are protecting Napolitano from criminal prosecution.”
What is your evidence for that? Why are you just now stating this when you could have said it earlier? What is your motive for what you are doing right now?
So despite your post #205 to Cold Case Posse Supporter upthread, you changed your mind about recommending sheriff arpaio get a warrant to search napolitanos premises?
Post #205:
To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
I would think Lt. Zullo is aware DHS Secretary Napolitano,former governor of Arizona,is the custodian of the U.S. Federal government’s immigration records. After all,Sheriff Arpaio’s investigators had access to the DHS database to check the immigration status of criminal suspects until Obama changed that policy. Until Obama changed the policy,Sheriff Arpaio and his deputies had permissible access and could look up Obama’s immigration records.
Doesn’t that seem suspicious? With Sherff Arpaio’s announcement Obama’s long form birth certificate was forged and Obama cutting off access to the immigration database,I would think that is enough to obtain a search warrant for Obama’s immigration records. With a search warrant,any and all concern about the veracity of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization would be eliminated. Sheriff Arpaio and his deputies have several years of experience searching DHS immigration records before Obama cut them off. Why is Lt. Zullo afraid of DHS Secretary Janet Naplitano?
205 posted on Thu Mar 14 2013 14:36:44 GMT-0500 (CDT) by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Oh, and here is your post #202 to Cold Case Posse Supporter saying that Zullo should search napolitanos HOUSE :
Constitutional Scholar Defines Natural Born Citizen(Obama, Jindal, Cruz, Rubio Don’t Qualify) Thu Mar 14 2013 14:04:31 GMT-0500 (CDT) · 202 of 234 SvenMagnussen to Cold Case Posse Supporter Maricopa County CCP member,Lt. Mike Zullo,can drive over to Maricopa County resident Janet Napolitano’s home and get the documents. DHS Secretary Napolitano is the custodian of the U.S. Federal Government’s immigration records. If Napolitano doesn’t cooperate,Lt. Zullo,can remind can remind her conspiracy to election fraud is a crime. Also,Lt. Zullo can easily obtain the immigration records of a suspect in election with a forged BC with a search warrant from a Maricopa County judge.
A search warrant immediately eliminates a suspicion Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization has been forged or illegally obtained. Furthermore,Lt. Zullo can asked for cross-jurisdictional cooperation with the Lee’s Summitt County,MO sheriff to execute a search warrant at USCIS and the Montgomery County,MD sherriff to execute a search warrant at NARA.
Who forges an OLGBC?
An immigrant. Regardless of where he was born,Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization says he is an immigrant to the U.S. In no circumstance does a natural born citizen have a Certificate of Naturalization issued to him.
Any law enforcement officer who says there is not enough information available to interview Napolitano and obtain a search warrant after an uncooperative interview with Napolitano is not trying very hard. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | View Replies
Constitutional Scholar Defines Natural Born C
You say “Only a Natural Born citizen qualifies”
True....but not naturalized Citizens.
The special thing about “natural born” citizens is that they would be citizens regardless of where in the world they might be born.
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Thanks Kenny Bunk, and BD.
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Sorry Mr. Titus but you should have made your case five years ago before you let ozero in.To deny Marco now and allow zero is a double standard that some of us just won’t go for.
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