Posted on 03/09/2013 6:15:57 PM PST by RaceBannon
Here's an easy way to tell when your position isn't a conservative one. When you're standing with Van Jones, your position isn't a conservative one. When you're standing with Code Pink, then your position is not a conservative one.
No amount of noise or chest-beating is going to change that.
Certainly, part of vetting ought to be what he thinks of his father’s mentor, Lew Rockwell. You and I were both around on September 11, 2001, when the posts about Lew Rockwell shouting about how it was all America’s fault were rolling in. Anybody in any way associated with that has a high bar of mistrust to overcome.
New world order (wall street, the foundation system, etc.) has enough of its minions in the top echelons of both ideologies/political parties, “right”/Republican and “left”/Democrat that they effectively control both. Whichever one is in office, the other beats up on them; this is nwo’s simple strategy of always having framed all sides of an argument, which keeps the people arguing completely oblivious to them. Libertarianism and other third parties, unfortunately, are riddled with the same problem.
NWO is heading in the statist direction, so its primary direction is to the left. When Democrats are in power, they therefore take two governmental steps forward in the direction they want to go, when Republicans are in power, they take a step back control-wise, and work on giving their various monopolies more legal latitude and getting as much funding as possible for government military technology initiatives, which profits many companies in their orbit.
At this point, Democrats/the left are therefore mostly quiet on military, CIA, foreign intervention, etc., except the “far left” always protests these things, as that is part of their core ideology/brand.
Libertarians have always been critical of overreach in these areas; that’s a commonality between them and the far left, though the underlying direction they are going is the opposite of the left (the left seeks statism but Libertarians seek minimalist government and individualism).
The common ground of these two movements, however, is helpful to nwo in various ways:
a) makes anyone on the political right suspicious of Libertarians since they appear to be siding with the left; it’s very difficult for Libertarians to gain a lot of traction with the right
b) makes conservatives skeptical of new world order “conspiracy theory” because of “who” is asserting that perhaps strong counterintelligence and clandestine operations may not always be in the best interest of the nation; this serves to enable NWO to hide in plain sight, since a key assertion about NWO is that they have always had undue influence at the State Department and CIA
c) can be used to align the political far-left and center-left around a perceived common enemy, the hardline American “peace through strength” view
d) can be used to attract Libertarians not so well informed to leftism since they will perceive some “common ground” with leftists
Simple research will bear out that the key founding figures in the intelligence communities of the US and UK, as well as most top leadership figures in US government agencies, all have resumes filled with ties to elite banking and its universities, foundations and organizations. While the rank and file may have other backgrounds, the leadership of government is largely of one pedigree, and it’s a rotten one that does not reflect any conservative values despite its pretensions.
Over the past few years, as I busied myself reading about how and why the far left was taking the nation in such a troubling direction, I came across history spanning the entire 20th century that the right has been silent on during my entire lifetime, and with good reason: once you peek behind the curtain of politics you begin to see who the puppetmaster is.
At least we saw something other than bills passed in a near-empty chamber, almost silently, in the middle of the night, though I’d much rather see something else entirely.
So true. I’ll stand with Rand anyday.
I’m more afraid of the US Govt and the police state that is being erected that I am of terrorists.
Yes, Rand Paul isn’t perfect—but on this question he was and is right. Now you see the foes of freedom rallying to discredit him in any way they can. When Rand was speaking on the Senate floor I knew this would happen. He’s getting the full Sarah Palin treatment—he’s getting from the old bulls on the RINO side of the GOP and the Liberals and Progressives and MSM. Look to see a mocking of him on future SNL show like the hatchet job Tina Fey did to Sarah Palin. They must stop him, marginalize him and make him the fool. It has worked well in the past—next he will be accused of racism and hitting him over the head with words of his father. Its just starting folks—I hope Rand has some thick skin. He should get together with Sarah Palin and compare notes on what to expect. Same for Ted Cruz and Rubio (watergate). The opening gun has been fired in the GOP Civil War. I am banking on Conservatives and the Tea Party.
” - - - When you’re standing with Van Jones, your position isn’t a conservative one. - - - “
WRONG! This is a false assertion, an extrapolation based on a false assumption.
The rest of the article by Daniel Greenfield makes derivative speculations based on that false assumption.
The term “conservative” as used by Dan is without merit as can be tested by the simple question: If Conservatism is advocated, then what is being advocated to be Conserved?
Thus, by re-reading Mr. Greenfield’s article, the reader will conclude that the author of the Article, Dan Greenfield, was unable to provide a single method to what he proposed to do with his first sentence of his article, to wit: “When you’re standing with Van Jones, your position isn’t a conservative one.”
In summary, this article is an ideal candidate for an award from Harvard’s Crimson Newspaper, but really belongs in File 13.
Correction to my above comment: The first sentence in the article by Dan Greenfield proposed to wit: “ Here’s an easy way to tell when your position isn’t a conservative one. “
I take it then you disagree with Rand Paul on the issue of drones. Therefore you agree with Obama’s drone policy. Using your logic, you must be a friend of Obama.
You can take McCain’s side. I’ll stick with Rand Paul.
Go Rand #standwithrand
The topic of my comments were the low quality of journalistic integrity in the article written by Mr. Dan Greenfield.
No other people were mentioned by name.
This article will appeal to the low information voter, but really belongs in File 13.
IOW, this is a spin-piece, smokescreen, distraction-stemwinder that the low information voter will quickly skim and see only what he/she wants to see.
The Liberal Agenda Media, LAM, will choose this article, and then ask their Liberal guest this leading question: “Last week Dan Greenfield made some interesting points in his article - - - Oh, you read it? Good! What do you think about the points that he made?”
And so it goes - - - .
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I await your comments on the comments that I have made on THIS thread, and THEN we can chat about the kitchen sink.
Yes, he voted to confirm the traitor Kerry, also.
The topic of my comments were the low quality of journalistic integrity in the article written by Mr. Dan Greenfield.
No other people were mentioned by name.
This article will appeal to the low information voter, but really belongs in File 13, IMHO.
IOW, this is a spin-piece, smokescreen, distraction-stemwinder that the low information voter will quickly skim and see only what he/she wants to see.
The Liberal Agenda Media, LAM, will choose to spotlight this article, and then ask their esteemed Liberal guest this leading question: “Last week Dan Greenfield made some interesting points in his article - - - Oh, you read it? Good! What do you think about the points that he made?”
And so it goes - - - .
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I await your comments on the comments that I have made on THIS thread, and THEN we can chat about the kitchen sink.
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