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To: Ladysforest
US CITIZENSHIP. Was Mr. Jefferson BORN a dual citizen? NO.

Doesn't matter in the slightest. You said:

Dual citizenship was not legal under US law OR English common law (since you keep focusing on such) at the time the Constitution was signed in 1787.

If you're doing anything, you're just playing with words here.

It is clear that dual citizenship existed in the very early days of the United States.

It is clear that our THIRD PRESIDENT was a DUAL CITIZEN, AT THE TIME HE SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

If the Framers of the Constitution had been so opposed to "divided loyalty" as you claim, don't you think they would have made such an outroar that Jefferson would have been forced to renounce his French citizenship?

Remember, this was just a dozen years after the Constitution was written, and less than that after it was ratified.

And yet... no one... gave... a royal flip.

Are you like the rest of the birthers? In that you're going to believe in birtherism even if the facts are all against you? Because I have sole title to a fine, fine bridge that is set to hugely appreciate in value. I need to sell in order to raise cash for a sick Dalmatian.

680 posted on 03/09/2013 10:47:01 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

You lost. You are not debating or discussing. You are making up things to try to distract from the actual point of this thread.

Cruz is a dual citizen. There was NO dual citizenship in 1787 in either the US or in England. So what if some of our more prominent politicians of the time were declared honorary citizens? Was Jefferson born a dual citizen? No, he was not. Did he give up his US citizenship at any point in his life? No he did not. He was given an honor, which was very common back then. Much like a person would be given an honorary Doctorate who may never have set foot in a collage.

Lets repeat the two most important things there - Jefferson was NOT born a dual citizen. Jefferson never lost US citizenship.

I asked you to post the US *LAWS* regarding dual citizenship. The US *LAWS* officially recognizing dual citizenship.

Cruz was born a dual citizen. That means that AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH he was a citizen of two different countries.

Next, you show me one law or Act passed prior to the signing of the US Constitution officially recognizing dual citizenship.

You keep saying things are “clear”, yet you post NO proof, you list no sources, you provide no links.

What is clear is that you are emotionally responding to this discussion, but you have zero facts to back you up.

Maybe you should spend time researching instead of just sharing your non-fact based opinions.


717 posted on 03/10/2013 9:05:35 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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