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To: Seizethecarp
"You could ask the mods to delete to comment, and then repost it with the correction..."

I'm embarrassed to say that in over ten years I have never been aware of moderators, or thought of what they could offer. Now I will follow your suggestion.

This is a “head-banging” exercise, but one of the few truly free exercises of the 1st Amendment available both for a dialogue, and to inform those too busy surviving to learn about constitutional law, or about our founders’ motivations.

I can now see why our pundits step carefully. We saw what those with control can do to enemies. I will never forget the Scooter Libby travesty, unfortunately on G.W.’s watch. The justice department brought charges after Powell's deputy, Richard Armitage, had confessed. I suspect that was a shot across the bow. No one can defend himself from a corrupt Justice Department, but we can still - so far - talk about it here.

The clue is, as someone noted in a prior note referring to Scalia, that when they refuse to discuss Chief Justice Marshall, or Chief Justice Waite, or Chief Justice Evans Hughes, or Perkins v. Elg, or..., they are afraid. They have lots to fear.

After pondering the forces behind all this subterfuge for over five years the fog has cleared from the most plausible hypothesis, best described by James Carville; Follow the money!. That innocent revelation by an octogenarian, but quite lucid attorney, Percy Sutton, whose integrity has never been doubted or questioned, was on the mark. Obama has had Alwaleed bin-Talal as a patron since at least his Occidental days, and very likely before that. The intersection of Wahhabi recruiter Don Warden/Khalid al-Mansour/attorney for forty years to the Saudis, Vernon Jarrett, Frank Marshall Davis, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Percy Sutton and his clients, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, The Muslim Brotherhood, and dozens of lessor known figures is the key.

Many of those who ideologically defend Obama from questionable eligibility are only now seeing that every action can be explained by his allegiance to Wahhabi Islam-The Muslim Brotherhood. The wealth of the Saudi Royal Family comes, in large part, from our dependence upon their petroleum. Their survival from threatening Baathist Sadaam Hussein, from The Islamic Republic that was Iran before Jimmy Carter banished the reformer, the last Shah, and radical Imams led by Khomeini destroyed blossoming democracy, and even from the Saudi supported “extremist” elements of Wahhabism, Salafists and Al Qaeda, is Obama’s charter. That explains “Al Quds” John Brennan, and peaceful Jihad Hagel, and Susan Rice and Samantha Power.

I don't know enough about what Soros gets from funding what amounts to the resurgence of the Sunni Caliphate to understand his strategy, but just as he betrayed other Jews in Hungary as a teenager, he seems to have no attachment to our founding principles or citizenry.

I do have the perspective of having listened during two years of Don Warden's presence in Berkeley, at Boalt Hall getting his law degree, to have heard the master plan. Warden had a weekly radio program which was all about the primacy of the Black race, about the only true God, Allah, and what I now recognize as Islamic Jihad. Warden's facility explaining a history of domination by evil white men was impressive, and I, in the sciences, didn't know enough to be critical. There is little difference between Warden/al-Mansour’s diatribes and Wright's. except that Warden included Islam in his diatribes against both white men and the West.

Warden, while he was helping found the Black Panthers, was already a Wahhabi convert. On commercial radio he was exhorting blacks to kill white women “Allah wants you to.” This was about the time of the Zebra killings in the Bay Area, but Warden was never publicly connected to them. He was opening a law office with bin-Talal as key partner. His early activities as counsel to the Saudi Royal Family, reporting to bin-Talal, was recruiting for Wahhabism in US prisons. Vernon Jarret (yes, Valerie's father-in-law) wrote about an interview with al-Mansour, who was representing the Saudi funding of educational programs for American Blacks and Hispanics. Now we know that al-Mansour has been managing funding of Wahhabi Mosques and Madrassas both in the US and in North Africa. (Jarrett's article was published by and in his employer's Chicago Tribune, but has now been scrubbed. It was uncovered by a former New York journalist, Frank Mieli, who was in turn discovered by Jack Cashill.)

Bin-Talal went on to buy majority public ownership of News Corp, owner of Fox News and the WSJ, a major holder of Citibank and AIG, Cisco, Apple, GE, Siemens, and dozens of other corporations. He funded what is now the largest department in Harvard's divinity school, the “Alwaleed bin-Talal Center for Islamic Study”, and has now extended it to Georgetown, American University, Cambridge, and several other Universities. Money is power.

Whether the white house golfer is or is not a Wahhabi Muslim is irrelevant. All of his actions confirm that innocent and honest recollection by Percy Sutton of having helped al-Mansour to gain Obama’s admission to Harvard Law, admission which may have been expedited by a donation of twenty million dollars to Harvard in 1986-87 by bin-Talal, about the time Barry was admitted. It was Percy who explained to the New York local interviewer that Prince bin-Talal was Obama’s patron. Percy saw that as success, and perhaps he was correct. The question remains for whom it will be a success in the long run. With Obama's allegiance to, using John Bingham's eloquent rephrasing of the natural born citizen requirement, Saudi patrons, all of his actions can be understood. Since the power granted by his access through Prince bin-Talal to our tax money, and by the usurpation of the executive office, is enormous, it is not likely that some honest broker will appear with the power to explain the truth. But we can understand it, and if enough of our Constitution survives, insist on preserving, protecting and defending what remains, and perhaps even restoring the meanings explained by its framers.

1,307 posted on 03/12/2013 6:09:02 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
The question remains for whom it will be a success in the long run. With Obama's allegiance to, using John Bingham's eloquent rephrasing of the natural born citizen requirement,

Is it possible that Obama is a member of the Saudi royal family? Could his real father have been related to King Faisal?

I guess we'll never know for sure.

1,309 posted on 03/12/2013 6:57:37 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Spaulding

“Bin-Talal went on to buy majority public ownership of News Corp, owner of Fox News and the WSJ, a major holder of Citibank and AIG, Cisco, Apple, GE, Siemens, and dozens of other corporations.”

Bin-Talal does not have anywhere near majority ownership in any of those companies. He had less than 10% of Newscorp last time I looked at the proxy and 10-K.

IMO, Barry is a Chicago Marxist. When the USSR fell they had to look around for big money to sucker into funding their activities and they pretend to be Muslim sympathetic when it helps just like Barry has pretended to be Christian for years.

BTW, I went to the same prep school in the same class with Scooter four years after W. did. Scooter threw in with Cheney and did some things that harmed W in order to protect Cheney (appearing to be pretending not to remember things), which is why I believe Scooter did not get full pardon. I agree that the prosecution was a disgrace and never should have happened.


1,322 posted on 03/12/2013 8:10:19 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Spaulding
I don't know enough about what Soros gets from funding what amounts to the resurgence of the Sunni Caliphate to understand his strategy, but just as he betrayed other Jews in Hungary as a teenager, he seems to have no attachment to our founding principles or citizenry.

Born in 1930, he would have been at that "impressionable age" during his time with the Nazis.

It would be interesting to know where he was in coming to terms with his father, his mother, his faith, and the state of the world when it all happened and he got caught up into it.

That stuff and time of life is hard enough without adding a Nazi flavored potential Stockholm Syndrome, plus their goal of world domination into his malleable pubescent psyche.

Listening to him talk about it, I think his thoughts about that time are fairly creepy, but rational and fairly well adjusted. He's become wealthy and successful, and to some, a self-realized man.

None the less...I can't help but wonder, if at some level he isn't seeking personal revenge on the people who beat his captors/friends from, perhaps, the most exciting time in his life. When it comes to loyalty? He's loyal to himself and what he's building.

He's not a young man. If he has such an agenda, and it looks that way from here, I think he'd like to see it through. Our lemming run for the edge has been picking up speed. He and we likely won't have to wait much longer.

I guess now I can understand why few of the radio personalities have touched this or let callers talk about it, given the money and power and fear that can be brought to bear against them, and against those who give them a microphone. Same for politicians.

Or, perhaps, they're waiting for the right time, when it's so bad and so obvious, that the low information and the apathetic are finally paying attention enough to understand what's been done.

It's a/the hill to die for, but maybe they're waiting to see if they'll be charging up that hill alone or leading an army. Maybe that's what some of these posters are doing here, gauging support.

To them, I say lead and your all volunteer, self-supplied army that has been ready, willing and able and is tired of waiting will take that hill with you. Time to be George Washington.

1,348 posted on 03/13/2013 7:41:12 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Admin Moderator; Spaulding
I'm embarrassed to say that in over ten years I have never been aware of moderators, or thought of what they could offer.

Oh great and powerful one, let Spaulding behold what thou has to offer! (Heh.)

1,352 posted on 03/13/2013 8:13:06 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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