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To: Tau Food
People (including judges) will be inclined to assume that Obama is correct. It's just not a bizarre claim for someone to claim he was born in Hawaii.

Okay, you've confused me. He originally claimed to be Kenyan and then claimed to born in Hawaii and it's all good with you? He's whatever he says he is?

Sure, of course a judge would agree to that. If s/he didn't think that was okie dokie I'd know there was something wrong.

I was naive once, but not that naive. Onward through the fog, dude.

1,217 posted on 03/11/2013 8:38:19 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
Okay, you've confused me. He originally claimed to be Kenyan and then claimed to born in Hawaii and it's all good with you? He's whatever he says he is?

Well, if you have evidence of Obama saying that he was born in Kenya, then you can introduce that statement as evidence that he was born in Kenya. Was Obama's statement taped? Is somebody prepared to testify to hearing him make that statement?

However, if you don't really have admissible evidence of Obama saying that he was born in Kenya, then you're continuing to engage in wishful thinking. I'm asking you to take a realistic view of your case. Imagine yourself standing before a judge, with everyone watching, and the judge asks you to put on your evidence that Obama was not born in the United States. What do you think will be the result if you tell the judge, "Well, judge, we don't really have any evidence that he was born outside the United States. Our case is really based upon our hope that you will disregard Obama's testimony and documents indicating he was born in the United States. We want you to give his testimony no weight, we want you to find that the State of Hawaii's records are utterly worthless and fraudulent, and we want you to give no weight to the fact that there were contemporary news articles in Hawaii announcing his birth. Judge, if you can just give zero weight to all of that so-called evidence, then you can find that Obama's evidence is no stronger than our zero evidence."

All I can say is, good luck. You don't really want a trial.

I think if a pitch is to be made, it should be made to the House of Representatives. If they won't help you, then start preparing for 2016.

If I felt certain about the truth of a proposition, but was unable to produce any affirmative evidence to support it and was unable to convince most other people of its truth, I would simply accept that I believe the proposition as a matter of faith. Then, the fact that others didn't join me in adopting that faith would be less painful.

1,232 posted on 03/12/2013 8:14:45 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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