[BfloGuy]

Ann's argument here is weak and, frankly, beneath her abilities.

Now, I have used the "welfare state" argument to counter libertarians' insistence on open immigration. I think it would bankrupt us [faster].

But the drug users' medical bills we would be responsible for would probably be balanced out by reduced court and imprisonment costs.

The fact remains: enforcement can stop illegal immigration; enforcement cannot stop illegal drug use.

[FreeMerica]

I just don’t understand the argument that, “we have a welfare state and it’s bad so we need a police state to keep the welfare state from costing us too much.”

That seems a move in exact opposition to freedom and personal responsibility.