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To: Nero Germanicus
"""Who is it then that decides that a president-elect has failed to qualify? Congress? The Judiciary?"""

Now that is a really good question.... And I believe the answer is easy..... Anyone who can read, comprehends and takes an oath to support and defend the Constitution. If there is a disagreement on how the constitution wants us to operate our government, then, it is the purview of the courts settle the matter. Also, in certain circumstances congress can weigh in. This is one of those circumstances. However, we can not even get one to object!!!

""""It would have helped the cause immensely if there had been a criminal investigation of document fraud and forgery. But there was no such investigation by a duly authorized law enforcement agency,.....""""

There was and is a through investigation and it is helping the cause. The Sheriffs department in Maricopa county is the largest law enforcement agency in the state of Arizona and one of the largest in the country. At the request of constituents, the duly elected Sheriff Arpaio launched an authorized investigation focusing on the document posted on the official government White House website that Obama represented as a copy of his actual birth certificate. This investigation is still ongoing but has come to the conclusion that the document is a forgery . AND So far, not one court,government agency or major political commentator will even entertain the possibility of bringing it forward.

""""Every lawsuit that raised issues of document fraud, forgery or identity theft was decided in Obama’s favor and seven courts ruled that he is indeed a natural born citizen. Without a definitive ruling there were no grounds for any entity to rule that he failed to qualify.""""

Are you assuming these court rulings were the result of normal judicial procedures? Ask your self, how can a court make a finding without allowing discovery and hearing testimony from both sides? I am sure you will agree with me this is all very corrupt. The courts need to do their duty. Congress needs to do their duty. And Now.... we must do our duty. We must stand strong and never give up. For the sake of all who come after us.

48 posted on 01/20/2013 4:47:04 AM PST by Constitution 123
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To: Constitution 123

I was hoping that the Posse’ would complete their investigation and turn their evidence over to the Maricopa County Attorney for a Grand Jury investigation before the Election and certainly before Inauguration Day, but that didn’t happen. Now that he’s been sworn in again, the only legal action that can touch Obama is impeachment or resignation.

The reason Courts can dismiss lawsuits before discovery is because either side in a civil action can submit dispositive motions and if a judge finds those arguments to be probative, the lawsuit is dismissed in its pre-trial phase.
In a trial on the merits in Georgia, the judge ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen. (Farrar, Swensson, Powell & Welden v Obama).
There have been seventy appeals of those lawsuits and zero reversals. There have been 23 Supreme Court petitions and applications, all denied.

In any event, you don’t try forgery in a civil suit. forgery is a crime and criminals are indicted by grand juries.


64 posted on 01/20/2013 12:38:47 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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