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To: Strategerist

Thank you for this. Time for everyone to stop piling on Romney as somehow a lousy candidate. Or blaming fraud or that stupid ORCA program.

It is simple demographics - Obama did lose at least a few million white voters. But he gained with the rising Latino and Black populations and held on to his youth and single female vote.

We had hoped the voters in this country would see what we all have been seeing. But there is just not enough of us. Too many people vote based on identity group, Federal Gov handouts, and sheer stupidity.

I don’t blame Romney he was a good candidate and would have made a good prez, far better than the dunce we are stuck with. I don’t even blame Obama he is simply what the majority of the people in this declining country now want.

Sad but true. And denying the truth serves no purpose.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 10:20:45 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain
Time for everyone to stop piling on Romney as somehow a lousy candidate. Or blaming fraud or that stupid ORCA program.

Oh, spare us the sanctimony. Romney WAS a lousy candidate. There WAS fraud. And ORCA was a fiasco. One reason Bush won in 2004 is that the GOP had a good GOTV program that year. This was the GOP's election to win and they blew it across the board.

5 posted on 11/21/2012 10:28:09 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: over3Owithabrain

Romney’s team ran a poor campaign, and Romney only rose to the occasion during the first debate, when he actually thought he was fighting from behind.

He pathetically pitched for Romneycare throughout the campaign, which effectively took Obamacare off the table.

Sure, he was largely gaffe free after his trip to London, but that’s because he ran such a cautious campaign that he never actually said anything compelling enough to break through the MSM’s Obama boostering.


10 posted on 11/21/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: over3Owithabrain

Time to “bring it all down man”, only this time WE use their OWN tools against them.

We need to go beyond Galt and start becomming “super consumer leeches” while preparing siultaniously for the inevitable accelerated collapse.

Sign up for damn near EVERY government foodstamp and program and help our family and friends do the same damn thing. Let us make Obama OWN the food stamp title.

Use the extra food stamps to stock up on “prepping food” or buyfood for CONSERVATIVE CHARITIES ONLY!!!!

It took lazy ass unmotivated leeches oer 40 to take the system to the edge, let’s see what a bunch of hard working pissed off americans can do it 4 short years!


37 posted on 11/21/2012 11:59:03 AM PST by GraceG
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To: over3Owithabrain
“Thank you for this. Time for everyone to stop piling on Romney as somehow a lousy candidate. “

No, it's not time to stop such a thing. The story is precisely about those 8 million 2008 Obama voters that abandoned him this time - and decided NOT to vote for Romney. We can safely assume those 8 million were not the hardcore leftists - they'd never abandon a Marxist like Obama. So it has to be those “Independents” that we are relentlessly told we absolutely HAVE to have by all of those alleged Republican Strategists ( you know, like Steve Schmidt - ever count sheer number of losing campaigns this clown has been involved with?). So not only did they not vote Obama again, but evidently they gave Romney a pass too. Or, worse for the GOP, a lot of those 8 million did vote for Romney - and the ones who stayed home were the very social conservatives who are the majority of the TEA Party movement. I suspect it's much more the latter.

Let's be clear about Mitt Romney: nobody really wanted him, as was evidenced in the Primaries. He was the lone wolf to stake out the RINO middle ground: works well with Democrats, lots of big spending programs to his name, no aversion at all to tax increases. He was Democrat Lite, and only the Progressive Republicans in the party and in the Congress loved him. He was one of them. No one in the Republican Base of Conservatives wanted anything to do with him. Romney had to come from behind to win almost all of the primaries in the beginning of the season: Iowa, Florida, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania - and he lost South Carolina outright. He basically took his own money and outspent his foes with ruthless attack ads on them, their character and everything else. Romney wanted the nomination; nobody wanted Romney. We wanted a real conservative. We didn't get one. So we lost. The New York Times did a rare piece of accurate reporting. They discovered this summer that 59% of those who said to them they were going to vote for Romney were doing so only to vote against Obama - none of them were voting FOR Romney. When you have 6 in 10 of your own voters say openly they're aren't voting FOR you but AGAINST the other guy, you can only conclude we did in fact run a lousy candidate.

And the other reason it's important to keep the heat on the Romney's of the world should be patently obvious to the GOP numbskulls: you give us another McCain or Romney type moderate squish - or G-d forbid you even TRY to give us someone else named BUSH - and the base will tell you to F-off and the GOP will win nothing ever again. Romney won over the “Independents” this time by 5 points, and he still came up a loser. Romney basically ran as the non-Obama, and thought that would be enough. But he never told the world why Obama was a disaster. Why his policies are destructive. And moreover, even raise the question of whether it was deliberate by Obama or not. All he said was that Obama was just simply in over his head - a well intended student who just didnt' seem to "get it", according to Romney. So if Romney himself doesn't make the argument of why he is better and what courses he's going to reverse, why should anyone vote for him?

41 posted on 11/21/2012 12:30:23 PM PST by antonico
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To: over3Owithabrain

Obama still got less votes than he did in 2008 which means Romney was not able to convince those voters he was an acceptable alternative


42 posted on 11/21/2012 12:48:28 PM PST by zt1053
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