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To: JCBreckenridge
Since, as you assert, gay marriage, drug legalization and abortion are not essential parts of what it means to be a libertarian - libertarians ought to be willing to concede these issues to conservatives.

The crux of the abortion issue is human life. If unborn babies are human then libertarian philosophy is anti-abortion. Pro-abortion libertarians make the same arguments that pro-abortion Democrats make, that the unborn aren't really human.

Ironically the most hated libertarian on FR, Ron Paul, is anti-abortion.

Libertarians usually claim gay marriage is just a contract. This is a far more radical stand than that taken by liberals, who limit their ambition to giving homosexuals the right to marry each other and be subject to the same obligations and responsibilities as normal married couples, at least for now. The libertarian approach would immediately allow for polygamy and every other variation, as well as temporary "marriage" and prostitution.

Drug legalization, however, is the one issue where all libertarians agree. If they repealed all federal drug laws the next step would be to repeal all state drug laws, as well as any local regulations.

With pot this would have few negative side effects. Heroin, that's a horse of a different color.

176 posted on 11/17/2012 7:09:56 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint
If they repealed all federal drug laws the next step would be to repeal all state drug laws, as well as any local regulations.

I say let them repeal all the federal drug laws, on one condition. They do it by overturning Wickard v Filburn.

177 posted on 11/17/2012 7:19:11 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MaxFlint

Drop the pro abort, pro gay marriage and pro drugs stance and you’re welcome to join the cause.

Continue to defend any of those three, and you are not. You want to work with us? Then choose.

I’m tired of fighting liberals and I’m tired of fighting establishment conservatives and I’m really tired of fighting liberalatarians arguing that if only we go pro pot that will solve everything!

I’m also tired of cleaning up libertarian’s garbage and trash that they leave behind for conservatives to clean up. I’m a young man. Don’t you think I’ve heard the pro dope argument constantly? Then the pro dope folks expect me to clean up their bs in the ‘after party’.

Speaks volumes. I just helped one of you pro pot folks - came home blasted, cleaned up and then took off. Presumably expecting that my door will be open for the next time.

So no, I don’t have any sympathy for the pro drugs crowd. I want it restricted, and I want the pushers gone because I see what it does to the people that I care for. And. I. Don’t. Like. It.


186 posted on 11/17/2012 12:16:08 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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