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Math-Challenged Silly People Voting Libertarian Cost GOP Victory in At Least 9 Congressional Races
Reaganite Republican ^ | 16 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/16/2012 3:21:20 AM PST by Reaganite Republican



The good news comes via instapundit:

PEOPLE WILL LOVE THIS: Libertarians provided the margin for Democrats in at least nine elections. It’s particularly sad that libertarians didn’t back Mia Love. Really, you’re not going to vote for a candidate whose favorite economist is Bastiat? Apparently not.


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So thanks Paulbot idiots- it all went-down just like we told you it was going to.

Any independent or Libertarian candidate running on the right is as much an enemy to American conservatives as are the progs: in our two-party system these people have zero chance of achieving real power or accomplishing anything meaningful, and are about as relevant as the Whig Party.  

That is, unless you count 'handing elections to Democrats', where they get to throw a tantrum, be heard, and do damage to conservatives- why does anybody think Ron and Rand Paul ran as Republicans? Because they want to WIN and take power, not sit at home dreaming about it- that's why

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: cost; libertarian; republicans; victory
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To: from occupied ga

I wouldn’t vote for ‘em until they represented CONSTITIONAL values; these ‘conservative’ values always seem to get pushed to the side to ‘reach across the aisle’


101 posted on 11/16/2012 8:09:37 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: GlockThe Vote
Had Romney not agreed w the NDAA alone he would have gotten a lot of RP people.

Yes, that and any number of minor concessions would have done it. Just a signal that he'd throw a bone. That's how you build coalitions.

102 posted on 11/16/2012 8:11:05 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

Its not only Ron Paul, Romneys’ people tossed no one a bone.

Nothing to the Newt people, nothing to the Santorum people, nothing to the Bachmann or Cain people, nothing to the Perry supporters, etc.

All Romney had to do get the paul people on board was repudiate the NDAA, say he was for full audit of the Fed, F Bernake, and maybe say RP would get a position in his Admn.

For a few million votes that is all he would have to have done.

Think about it.


103 posted on 11/16/2012 8:16:33 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: i_robot73
I wouldn’t vote for ‘em until they represented CONSTITIONAL values

The constitution isn't all that popular with either major party these days which I guess is your point.

104 posted on 11/16/2012 8:25:41 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: GlockThe Vote
He could have had the support of a substantially greater portion of the conservative voting base, as well, simply by allowing Sarah Palin a speaking spot at the Republican National Convention...

... but: nope. Far more important, evidently, to stick it in just a little bit further, so far as those icky, icky socons and evangelicals were concerned.

You'd think someone Mittens' age would have learned, long before now: Decisions. Have. Consequences.

105 posted on 11/16/2012 8:27:48 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Utmost Certainty
"Maybe the GOP ought to work on being inclusive to the Libertarian-minded folks instead of kicking them out? Just a thought.

Maybe if the liber-tear-ians weren't such goofballs they'd get more respect. If every one of the GOP cnadidates had cornballs like Ron Paul's, the debates would be 3 minutes long, punctuated by 87 minutes of hootin' and hollerin'.

106 posted on 11/16/2012 8:30:10 AM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: cookcounty

You don’t get it. The GOP has fewer and fewer people to drawn from.

If you kick out everyone who may agree with you only 60% of the time - the GOP will never win a national election again.


107 posted on 11/16/2012 8:32:39 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: cookcounty
Respect doesn't matter. Either run a conservative, or don't get several million votes. It's that simple.

GOP ran a liberal, and got what anyone with a brain could see was coming.

/johnny

108 posted on 11/16/2012 8:37:45 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: from occupied ga

Bingo, esp. not by reading 1/2 the replies on this thread.

Entitlement mentality (votes), GOOD ‘big government’ (it’s THEIR guys this time) and a slew of all the other tired anti-L cliches.

They’d rather follow the (R) brand instead of actually looking (and approving) of the L-platform


109 posted on 11/16/2012 8:41:50 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: cookcounty

Right. ‘Cuz the current ‘debates’ give such great insight on a politicians thoughts. 90 sec. where 85 is evading the question.

ALL parties should be allowed to debate, long and hotly. let the real thoughts/ideals show themselves and the the People decide, not the party nor the media.


110 posted on 11/16/2012 8:45:01 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: i_robot73
ALL parties should be allowed to debate, long and hotly.

I maintain the debates should consist of every candidate who is on enough state ballots to get a total of 270 electoral votes.

But the Big Two will never agree to such a thing because they don't like it to be known there are alternatives to the Demuplicans or Republicrats.

111 posted on 11/16/2012 8:49:31 AM PST by gdani
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To: xzins

I once heard Michael Savage say that Liberatarians are nothing more than confused liberals.


112 posted on 11/16/2012 9:20:52 AM PST by Jean2
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To: Reaganite Republican

I can never tell if these threads are to bash people who vote for Libertarian Party candidates, or just anyone with the temerity to think they’re better qualified than the author to run their own lives.


113 posted on 11/16/2012 9:24:58 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: yantis

“2. Tell me with whom I can/cannot enter a legally binding contract”

Same place as Habeus Corpus, btw. English Common Law definition of Marriage is Marriage between one man and one woman. Reynolds is the case you want.

You believe otherwise, you are not a conservative, and we don’t need you. Next.


114 posted on 11/16/2012 9:40:50 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Dead Corpse

“The War on Drugs must end. There is no Constitutional authority to fight it and it has done more damage than good for our Republic. While I want welfare ended as well, in the interim welfare recipients should be drug tested and denied those benefits if they pop positive.”

That makes no sense whatsoever. If drugs are legalized, you are going to be paying for them under welfare. Next.

“Gay marriage. Why is government licensing marriage to being with? Yes, we’ve gone over the “to ensure breeding pairs/stability” arguments. In the end, it boils down to a Religious thing. Because some folks wanted a religious ceremony codified in law by the State, you opened us up to perversion of those religious practices by the Gays. Give the entire issue back to the various Faiths and leave it there. No more government “forcing” gay marriage down any religions throats.”

English Common law definition of Marriage as one man and one woman. Go read Reynolds. Next.

“My main issues are the size/scope of government, enforcement of the Bill of Rights via Art6 Para2 and the 14th, States “rights” via the 10th, and restoring our economy to its free-er market roots.”

Pro-drug, pro-gay and pro-abortion. Next.


115 posted on 11/16/2012 9:43:34 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Welcome to Free Republic.

If you don't believe the Constitution limits the federal government to what is listed in Art 1, Sect. 8 you aren't a conservative. I don't need big government liberals of any party.

/johnny

116 posted on 11/16/2012 9:50:32 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I believe in the English Common law, which includes such things as trial by jury and Habeaus Corpus as an essential component of American jurisprudence, long predating the constitution. English Common Law first, constitution second. The constitution originates from the Common Law, not the other way.


117 posted on 11/16/2012 9:55:50 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

My goodness, that whole Revolution kerfluffle was entirely unnecessary, the fools. /s


118 posted on 11/16/2012 10:13:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Like I said, go read Reynolds. Great decision.


119 posted on 11/16/2012 10:37:27 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’ll rely upon the Founders, thank you. Go read George Mason.

The Constitution overturned the Common Law. To the extent that it exists in our national legal system at all,it will be found in the Bill Of Rights and very early Amendments intended to incorporate it.


120 posted on 11/16/2012 11:10:26 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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