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To: Rapscallion

The country is evenly divided politically. This is unsustainable and also cruel to both the socialist and the conservative to live in forced cohabitation. Now is the time to make a geographic divide and allow the two sides somewhere to go to. Why is that so hard to understand? There are no shared common values to work with.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 5:04:31 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It won’t be just divided political prefernces that break us up. We’ve always had them.

It’ll be tyranny fron DC on those who decide they’d rather risk civil war than live under it.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 5:21:27 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: central_va

“The country is evenly divided politically. This is unsustainable and also cruel to both the socialist and the conservative to live in forced cohabitation. Now is the time to make a geographic divide and allow the two sides somewhere to go to. Why is that so hard to understand? There are no shared common values to work with.”

I agree that a North American breakup could, and probably will, happen someday.

All one has to do is look at the map showing Hispanic population density in the southwestern states to see that the concept of “Atzlan” is no longer a trivial matter - it is quite real. In half-million-strong rallies - in instances where the Mexican flag is raised over the American flag - we are seeing evidence of “emerging Atzlan”. New Mexico is now majority Hispanic. Euros are a minority in California. When the Obama administration amnesty’s the illegals, the “poitical tilt” of Texas will suddenly shift leftward (I will draw fire from Texans reading this for even suggesting such a notion).

In the northeast, liberalism is triumphant. There are very few elected Republican congressmen or senators from the northeastern states. In some ways, the northeast is becoming its own nation, as “separated” in ideologies from mainstream America as is San Francisco. I could almost see a future union of the northeastern states with the maritime provinces of Canada when the breakup arrives.

And that begs the question as to whether Canada could survive a breakup of America to the south. I don’t believe it could. I see the Maritimes going with New England. I see Quebec quite possibly going on its own, perhaps with direct help from France (if that happens, watch French nationals flee to Quebec to escape the rise of Islam at home). I predict British Columbia would be partitioned, the northern part going to the New Alaskan Nation and the southern part joining with Washington, Oregon, and northernmost California as the “Pacific Ecological State”. The prairie provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta and the Northwest Territory will join with Alaska and the mountain states to form one conservative nation. That will leave Ontario with nowhere to go but to join the “Great Lakes Commonwealth” along with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, and eastern Iowa. Possibly Indiana as well, but southern Indianans would oppose this.

I foresee the Great Plains states, possibly South Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, western Iowa, maybe Colorado, joining together as “Prairieland”.

And of course, there’ll be “Dixieland” in the south.

Not sure about Florida yet. Nor Texas — the western end may end up in “Atzlan”, but that still leaves plenty of TX to either go it alone or perhaps consider joining either Dixieland or Prairieland.

In the east - as we witnessed in this election - formerly red states are turning blue, such as Virginia. I envision a new “Atlantic Coastal State” along the eastern coast. The only question will be whether the mid-Atlantic states wish to join this confederation or go their own way.

I also see a “Mountain Home” nation, perhaps comprised of West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, perhaps the western portions of Virginia and North Carolina. Of all the emerging nations, this is the one of which I’d like to be a citizen... :)

A lot of folks here are laughing at the notion that the United States could disunite. But how many nations have existed through time with their boundaries forever unchanged, their internal loyalties forever united?


51 posted on 11/13/2012 6:55:17 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: central_va
The country is evenly divided politically. This is unsustainable and also cruel to both the socialist and the conservative to live in forced cohabitation.

The socialists need conservatives to work and pay taxes. Additionally, what would be the demographics of a liberal society that is full of homosexuals and where killing babies is normal and expected?

The socialists also need conservatives as a convenient figure of Emmanuel Goldstein, to be blamed for everything that they do wrong. No, that leech is not planning to let its victim go. If leaders of a state start talking about secession then expect them to be quickly replaced, or at least blackmailed. There are a few types of offers that cannot be refused. Plain old political annihilation is also alive and well, just ask Herman Cain.

53 posted on 11/13/2012 7:24:39 PM PST by Greysard
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