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To: SquarePants

Ultimately, it’s not a matter of how you say it. You either want to allow abortions, or not. Truth be told there are a whole lot of people that would have voted Republican if it wasn’t for abortion. Millions. It would have made the difference for Romney. I know a lot of people say that abortion is central to the leftist agenda. But there are a lot of women who think that they want to have the abortion option, so they vote Democrat. For pro-life Dems, I think it’s a side issue. They’ll not vote Repub because of their pro-life view because their main issue is redistributive socialism & minority empowerment. We need to put everything we have into fighting what they are in the process of doing to this country, as far as ultimately true socialism (govt owned business as in communism) and full redistribution of wealth (via wealth taxes [a percent a net worth due each year]). We will never get to the point where we can outlaw abortion. But are we going to let that issue sink us anyway?


21 posted on 11/11/2012 9:31:20 PM PST by Hokestuk
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To: Hokestuk

What you said.

The broader battle against socialism and government control of individual life is being sunk because of this.


56 posted on 11/12/2012 3:07:02 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Hokestuk; SquarePants; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Ultimately, it’s not a matter of how you say it. You either want to allow abortions, or not. Truth be told there are a whole lot of people that would have voted Republican if it wasn’t for abortion. Millions. It would have made the difference for Romney. I know a lot of people say that abortion is central to the leftist agenda. But there are a lot of women who think that they want to have the abortion option, so they vote Democrat. For pro-life Dems, I think it’s a side issue. They’ll not vote Repub because of their pro-life view because their main issue is redistributive socialism & minority empowerment. We need to put everything we have into fighting what they are in the process of doing to this country, as far as ultimately true socialism (govt owned business as in communism) and full redistribution of wealth (via wealth taxes [a percent a net worth due each year]). We will never get to the point where we can outlaw abortion. But are we going to let that issue sink us anyway?

Hey troll, take your pro-abortion concern trolling somewhere else.

You sound just like the Whigs who wanted to ignore slavery.

The problem in the past election was that conservatives have never actually believed Romney when he said he was pro-life, EVERYTHING Romney says is for the sake of convenience. Abortion SHOULD be an issue, but it certainly wasn't in this election.

An innocent American in murdered in an abortuary EVERY 24 SECONDS and I refuse to support any party that wants to pretend that's not an issue.

111 posted on 11/12/2012 12:41:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Hokestuk

Obviously not a FReeper. Goodbye.


115 posted on 11/12/2012 1:59:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Hokestuk

My standard IB4TZ post:

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Sung to the tune of “Oh! Susanna, don’t you cry for me.” “

.... “Oh, no Bama, please don’t lie to me... for I’m off to Free Republic with a laptop on my knee.”

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I had a dream the other night, | When everything was still; | I thought I saw Obama dear, | A-coming for The Hill. | The smearing lie was in Duluth, | The croc tear in his eye, | Said I, I’m coming for the truth | Obama don’t you lie. | | Oh! No Bama, don’t you lie to me; | I’m off to Free Republic, | with my laptop on my knee.

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117 posted on 11/12/2012 2:45:48 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Hokestuk; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Dr. Brian Kopp; P-Marlowe; onyx; Diamond; napscoordinator; ...
Jim, thank you for zotting Hokestuk and warning Usagi_yo.

Now to respond to their arguments:

21 posted on Sun Nov 11 2012 23:31:20 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Hokestuk: “Ultimately, it’s not a matter of how you say it. You either want to allow abortions, or not. Truth be told there are a whole lot of people that would have voted Republican if it wasn’t for abortion. Millions. It would have made the difference for Romney.”

Great. So we get a Republican elected who acts like a Democrat and thinks the government ought not to be protecting people's lives.

How does that help us?

Maybe the economy will do better. The economy in Sodom and Gomorrah was doing well too — after all, they were well-watered cities on the plain which Lot chose because they looked like a good place to live.

In the long run, that won't help us one bit.

38 posted on Mon Nov 12 2012 00:22:11 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by chris37 (Heartless.): “I can’t think of many visible pro-life women politicans. I’m not even certain that there are any.”

I can't believe I'm seeing this on Free Republic.

married21 has already pointed out two: Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann.

Want a longer list? It would quickly grow to dozens of nationally known names, plus hundreds if not thousands on the state level of politics.

Liberal women usually favor abortion. Conservative women generally don't, unless they're libertarians. Sounds about like liberal, conservative and libertarian men.

Gender isn't the issue. The issue is whether or not we want to protect babies from mass murder.

It really is that simple.

141 posted on 11/13/2012 1:59:36 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Hokestuk
Truth be told there are a whole lot of people that would have voted Republican if it wasn’t for abortion. Millions.

And millions of people would not vote for pro-abortion Republican politicians. My mom, girlfriend, and myself for starters. Joe Schwarz never got my vote.

167 posted on 11/14/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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