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To: Kevmo
When someone uses a word I don't know I don't automatically assume that said person is being hypocritical and arrogant for using a word I don't know. When that happens, which is not infrequent, I usually just look up the word in a dictionary in order to understand what the person is saying.

which is not so much to show that the bible does not uphold fetal life holds less value than adult human life (which it does),

If I am understanding your meaning correctly, the Bible most certainly does not hold fetal human life as less value than adult human life, and the greatest evidence of that fact is that Jesus Christ Himself was once a pre-born child.

Have you not read what the prophet Jeremiah wrote? ""Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

If you are going to represent what the Bible teaches on some subject you ought to make very sure you are doing so accurately. If saying so makes me arrogant and a puffed up pharisee in your eyes, so be it.

Cordially,

163 posted on 11/14/2012 4:35:41 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

From the same passage in scripture,

17 “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.

20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

It is clear that slaves were worth less than freemen. Some human beings are worth less than others. And it is also clear from history that Jews took things seriously and codified the “eye for an eye” stuff, all at the same time attributing less value to fetuses than full-grown humans, even to the point of being pro-choice.

Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, that you are right and the passage means that a baby who can survive a premature delivery due to a violent accident has full “eye for an eye” rights. It only reinforces what I said about Tier1 pregnancies and abortions. That says nothing about nonviable preborn humans and that is why the jewish Mishnah is pro-choice.

The way to save millions of lives is to accept the common interpretation of scripture and proceed from it. You won’t get pro-choicers to accept the extension of protection for life onto preborn, unviable babies if you insist on the backend that practitioners are murderers. But you will get them to accept that a human preborn life is worth more than a vulture embryo. You would save lives that way. But perhaps you prefer to stay stuck in being a pharisee and arguing the smaller points.


164 posted on 11/14/2012 4:49:02 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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