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To: Fred Nerks; Seizethecarp; little jeremiah

“Then, in the space below Box 7, Obama Sr. did not list Barack Hussein Obama II as his son – an omission that is hard to understand if the child supposedly was born earlier that month.”

Here is how I look at this from a fit the curve view. This is for consumption as a plausible scenario. It is not a claim of fact:

- He knew he got SAD pregnant.
- No one at the Dunham house was happy about this (understandable).
- Obama does not want to marry. And family probably does not want him to marry.

- She is set back stateside to stay with her ‘aunt’. After all grandma is now a VP of a bank. Unmarried, pregnant daughter is not good to have around in that role.

- Obama knows what he started but now has no contact after what ever discussions/yelling/etc. is done by all parties.

- Now, almost a month after baby is born - HE DOES NOT KNOW. But he knows he got SAD preggie and knows that if he is not married to her that itself may be an INS problem OR he can possibly leverage it as indicated. So he does claim her as wife but he has no specifics on child.

- Family keeps her stateside until he is gone from island. Then, she comes home. Only after the troublemaker has left and unlikely to return in near future.

Note to this: It is possible that the background of the LFBC is authentic. The 9’s mean - not stated. If the family or SAD wanted no legal connection to Obama Sr. at that time it seems those 9’s would be the correct entry for not declaring a father. That is regardless of Obama was the father or someone else was.

After he is gone and the baby needs a name (and maybe mom needs a past to explain to Lolo) a divorce is done to solidify the story - legally.

So this is a scenario for that omission. He did not know since he was cut from SAD by the family and probably by a few hundred miles of ocean.


337 posted on 12/20/2012 11:15:03 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

If the above could be true, then why was a forged birth cert necessary?

And not a shred of any kind of evidence at all, that SAD was in HI during that time?

I mean, none, as in none.


341 posted on 12/20/2012 2:21:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bluecat6

“Note to this: It is possible that the background of the LFBC is authentic. The 9’s mean - not stated.”

Arpaio’s Posse claims that the fact that the signature stamp and seal “float” in the pdf makes it impossible to have been a scan of an original paper document. The 9’s might have been lifted from sample LFBC, but if it is a paste-up job, the 9’s cannot be relied on.

I agree that your analysis is mostly plausible, but, IIRC, the INS FOIA docs show the baby name to be BHO or BHO II almost immediately...way before the divorce. I don’t buy the narrative that the divorce was needed to legitimate lack of an HI legal marriage. There is an HI marriage vital record for BHO and SADO and the INS docs record the U of HI reporting a marriage on the same date as corroborated in the divorce records.

The problem of the marriage, as seen by INS, is that it was either bigamous due to a reported Kenyan wife, or a sham, i.e. a legal ceremony but no actual intention to be married but only gain immigration status. SADO had plenty of motivation to divorce BHO Sr.! The man was a beast.

SADO is also on record at U of WA using the name Obama in 1961-62, so at a minimum her baby would presumably have the last name, Obama, and Barack is the name remembered by Toutonghi and SADOs friends as being Barry’s name.

As to why BHO didn’t mention the baby in late Aug 1961, SADO might have still been on her back from Kenya, IMO.


361 posted on 12/20/2012 6:38:50 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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