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To: little jeremiah; bluecat6; Albertafriend

It’s long, but I’ll let AMERICAN THINKER take up the story, they do a much better job of showing the contradictions than I could ever hope to show:

excerpt:

Ann’s Friends in Seattle

The two people who have supplied the most information about Ann Dunham are her two Mercer Island high school friends: Susan Botkin Blake and Maxine Box. The easiest way to understand their prevarications is to analyze the story they tell of Ann’s “visit” to Seattle. There are at least three versions:

Version I

In a March 27, 2007 video interview Blake said:

She came to visit briefly one afternoon in 1961 when Barry was just a few weeks old. We were sitting at my mom’s house one late August afternoon and she had just finished nursing her baby. She was patting him and she went ‘Oh, he pooped.’ She looked at me ‘cause I had two little baby brothers and she handed him to me and said here Botkin, you know how to do this so she handed him out so I changed Barry’s diaper and showed her how to do it, said get used to it, they do this a lot these new babies do[.]

Box last saw her friend in 1961, when she visited Seattle on her way from Honolulu to Massachusetts, where her then-husband was attending Harvard.

Author Michael Patrick Leahy interviewed both women for an article in August 2008:

On at least one occasion, very shortly after the birth of Barack Obama Junior, friends of Stanley Ann Dunham recall her visiting them in Seattle with her new born baby, Barack Obama Junior.

Blake recalls that Dunham, who was calling herself Ann Obama at the time, visited her at her house in Mercer Island during the last week of August 1961.

She left Honolulu just as soon as she had clearance from her doctor to travel with her new baby. He was just 3 weeks old....She was very excited about her new life, and her husband. She was nuts about him, crazy in love. I was under the impression that he had left Honolulu before Barack’s birth; that he had gone to Harvard already for his studies, and that Ann was on her way to join him there.

As with Blake, this visit would be the last time that Box ever saw her high school friend.
Blake’s and Box’s recollections agree with the fable in Dreams; Ann and Obama are madly in love, he is at Harvard, and a distressed wife and child are on their way to be with him. These recollections, however, are simply impossible. In reality, Ann Dunham wasn’t “visiting”; she was living in Seattle and attending school at the University of Washington. Ann couldn’t have been on her way to Harvard because no one, including Barack Obama, Sr., knew anything about Harvard until May of 1962. Yet Blake anchors the date of the visit to late August 1961 by referring to a young baby, “pink and very new,” “3 weeks old”; “I showed her how to do it [change diapers].” If we accept the president’s date of birth as August 4, 1961, then it is impossible for Blake not to be talking about 1961. Finally, how can Blake describe Ann as being “nuts about him, crazy in love,” when Ann had just left Obama Sr. back in Hawaii for good? The marriage (if indeed there was a marriage) didn’t fall apart “a few years later,” as Box stated; it had already fallen apart, as evidenced by Ann and baby moving to Seattle.

Version II

According to David Maraniss in an August 2008 Washington Post article, August 1961 was not the last time Blake and Box saw their friend Ann, as was stated in version I. In March of 2008, Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs discovered that Obama Sr. didn’t learn he was accepted to Harvard until May of 1962. Could this be why Maraniss pins Ann’s “visit” to Seattle in late summer 1962?

Her husband finished his degree, graduating in June 1962 ... Then, before the month was out, he [Obama Sr.] took off, leaving behind his still-teenage wife and namesake child ... Did Ann try to follow him to Cambridge? Her friends from Mercer Island were left with that impression. Susan Botkin [Blake], Maxine Box and John Hunt all remember Ann showing up in Seattle late that summer with little Barry, as her son was called.

“She was on her way from her mother’s house to Boston to be with her husband,” Botkin [Blake] recalled. “[She said] he had transferred to grad school and she was going to join him ... but I remember that afternoon, sitting in my mother’s living room, drinking iced tea and eating sugar cookies. She had her baby and was talking about her husband, and what life held in store for her. She seemed so confident and self-assured and relaxed. She was leaving the next day to fly on to Boston.”

This second version of Ann’s “visit” is as impossible as the first. In late August 1962, Ann was not coming from her mother’s house in Hawaii; she was residing in Seattle. She had been in Seattle for at least a year and certainly had no intentions of “leaving the next day” to see her husband in Boston. Though this second version gets rid of the problem of when Obama Sr. learned of Harvard and when he went there, it is total hogwash.

Version III

Four years after his 2008 article, Maraniss wrote his book, Barack Obama: The Story. The incontrovertible fact that Ann was in Seattle by August of 1961 forced him to change the date of the “visit” back to 1961 while keeping many of the details the same:

Barry was not yet a month old when they left Honolulu in late August 1961 ... And she [Ann] made her way over to Susan Botkin’s mother’s house with the baby and spent an afternoon there ... they sat in the living room, drinking iced tea and eating sugar cookies, as Ann cradled baby Barry ... She looked neither frightened nor intimidated, but rather “so confident and self-assured and relaxed. She nursed him and was burping him, and oh, he pooped, and she handed him to me — ‘Here, Botke.’”

Careful historian Maraniss might more accurately be described as an “enabling dissembler.” By looking at the three versions of the “visit,” it is clear that as conflicting facts have been discovered, recollections have been conveniently modified to fit them. From the initial version of a young woman, “crazy in love,” stopping off in Seattle in 1961 on her way to see her beloved in Boston, who by the way wouldn’t be in Boston for another year, we find out that the “visit” really happened a year later in August 1962 — and when it becomes clear that Ann moved to Seattle and was never on her way to see her husband in Boston, we wind up with a totally innocuous story reset to 1961 of two friends visiting one afternoon for an amiable chat.

It is clear that people are lying. It is clear they are lying to protect a fraudulent story. It is clear that the official Obama nativity story is bunkum. Those who have orchestrated this cover-up should be ashamed of themselves for trying to fool us.

We should be ashamed of ourselves if we allow them to do it.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/we_have_been_duped_the_story.html#ixzz2FUXy3SQA


A careful reading will show that MOST of the above incidents ARE possible if Stanley Ann Dunham and zero are NOT the same woman and child as are Ann/Anna Obama.


289 posted on 12/19/2012 2:34:55 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for all the digging! I will read this all carefully. The lies/misrepresentations/off the cuff made up crap and a few facts here and there are amazingly difficult to sort out.

One thing for the idiots/knaves who call people “birthers” to consider - If the story in “Dreams” is true - how come there is no consistent or easy to understand evidence of his life?

It’s obvious to anyone who isn’t wedded to the myth (or one of the myths...) to see that his entire life story is a fabrication, and any small atolls of truth are surrounded by a sea of lies.


293 posted on 12/19/2012 11:19:26 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks; All

“A careful reading will show that MOST of the above incidents ARE possible if Stanley Ann Dunham and zero are NOT the same woman and child as are Ann/Anna Obama.”

A careful reading not of hearsay and bad memories of witnesses but of the actual 1961 and 1962 documents and records prove to a certainty that Stanley Ann was in Seattle at that time. There isn’t any evidence that I have seen that her baby, the current president, was anywhere else but with her in Seattle, as reported by numerous witnesses, even if they can’t remember timelines perfectly 50 years later. If any FReeper has such evidence feel free to post it.

There is no evidence that Mrs. Anna S. Obama is anything other than a variant of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama.


320 posted on 12/19/2012 9:35:54 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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