Posted on 09/04/2012 6:24:32 PM PDT by moneyrunner
It's time that someone started doing a little checking. Major General Jerry Curry, US Army (Ret) asks questions about some curious purchases. Who does the government intend to shoot?
Have you been to a Social Security Administration office? What is it doing with guns?
The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S. No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.
What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.
Are the men and women at the SSA going to shoot people is there's a problem instead of calling the police?
What about the atmospheric scientists at NOAA?
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.
Or DHS?
In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public....
Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? ...
Is there some private army that's being created outside of the police and the military? I have been reading about this and have dismissed it. After all, we really don't have a history of military coups. But what's the purpose of all this ammunition being delivered to "civilian" members of the government?
We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?
Were I the JCS, and if I wasn’t already fully briefed on this matter, I’d stop the purchase of hollow point bullets, ask the secretary of Defense why all this ammunition is being purchased and spread around the country? If I got answers like the ones Congress got during the investigation of Operation Fast and Furious – I’d start tracking all ammunition deliveries nationwide to find out what organizations and units are using them, for what purpose and, if it is not constitutional, prepare to counteract whatever it is that they are doing.
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Read the above carefully. Here's how I figure there is nothing to be alarmed about. ATK was awarded a contract by DHS for (up to a maximum) of 450M rounds of .40 caliber ammunition "over 5 years". That's roughly 90M rounds/yr. If your figure of 30% of DHS are "carrying", then 30% of 208,000 staff is 62,400 that are carrying. That means 1,442 rounds/yr per person, or about 120 rounds per month.
Is this excessive? How much ammo do staff carry on a day-to-day basis; how much is required for training programs; and how much is expended in ongoing skills practice sessions?
I don't know enough to say anything. But this quick "back of the envelope" scribbling suggests to me that it doesn't seem like anything to worry about (regarding DHS).
So the Department of Homeland Security is going to use 90 million rounds per year of just one caliber (.40) “for training purposes”? This does not really pass the smell test.
And they have other large purchases in the works for .223 rifle ammunition, .357 pistol ammunition and .50 caliber machine gun ammunition, and... [urp! .50 cal. What ????]. Total pending buys are estimated at 1.4 billion rounds of mixed caliber munitions from multiple vendors. Deliveries are not necessarily spread over a five year period either.
For example, the USFS wants 170,000 rounds of mixed ammunition for urgent delivery - in September. Other agency solicitations call for delivery in October.
None of this information is secret. It is openly published on government web sites. It is just tedious to find. Check out this little gem:
Bear in mind that 1 "unit" is a standard case of 1000 rounds.
I wonder what the significance of those required delivery dates might be?
Say, Isn't there some special event scheduled for November 2012?
Flamberge—bumping your posts and thread bump.
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