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To: PapaNew; Perdogg; All

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens......”

You’ve mis-quoted the decision. The correct text reads “...The Constitution does not...say who shall be a CITIZEN...”

It then goes on to state that it was never doubted that those born in the US to citizen parents are CITIZENS....
They then say that these people (born in country to citizen parents) are the Natives or Natural Born Citizens. Pretty clear cut!

The Court continues by adding that while there is disagreement over what other circumstances of birth result in CITIZENSHIP, but there had never been a doubt that those born in the country to citizen parents, (Natural Born Citizens) are citizens.

It should be noted that the issue the court was addressing was whether or not Eliz. Minor was a CITIZEN. That she was born in the country to citizen parents (ie a NBC) left no doubt that she was a CITIZEN, and eliminated any reason for the court to continue to examine this aspect of the case.

The issue of being a NBC is only relevant if one is running for the office of President of the US. That statis/circumstance of birth carries no other relevance/cashet in US law except in that instance.

The 14th Amendment partially answered the question of who shall be a CITIZEN by including as CITIZENS those born in the country to legally residing non-citizens. It was passed in order to insure that the children of former slaves would not have to go through the process of Naturalization. The later decision in Wong Kim Arc applied the 14th Amendment to a non former slave person, and declared the US-born Chinese legal Resident-Alien WKA a CITIZEN......

Neither the 14th Amendment nor the SCOTUS decision in WKA has any bearing on the concept or definition of Natural Born Citizenship...

The issue of who shall be a CITIZEN is a continuing question and the understanding of what makes a “CITIZEN” is constantly elvolving and changing. The term NBC, however, has a set definition and settled meaning in the law except to those chasing/promoting some sort of an agenda.

Those that use the terms Citizen and Natural Born Citizen interchangably are attempting to confuse what is, and has been until Obama, and to a lesser extent Jindal and Rubio, a clear cut issue. They do the American public a great disservice in promoting their narrow agenda of trying to place a specific personality over the US Constitution/law.

“Shame on Ya!”


82 posted on 09/01/2012 8:26:14 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (uoted the decision)
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To: Forty-Niner
The correct text reads “...The Constitution does not...say who shall be a CITIZEN...”

What's your source?

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens......”

That's an exact quote according to caselaw.com http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162

BTW, my argument was that the issue regarding NBC was that of non-citizen parents. You would have seen that had you carefully read my post.

A bit trigger happy there.

116 posted on 09/01/2012 11:26:09 AM PDT by PapaNew
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