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To: EinNYC

thank you for your kindness. BTW, i do not watch very many movies, thank you.

perhaps the teachers should be authoritative enough to get the students in their seats within the first few minuets of class time.

Seemed to work when I was a student, otherwise we were punished.

Sorry about the thug stuff, throw them out of the class as they do not want to learn, it is a free country. if they do not want to learn, don’t let them inhibit those that do.

i will kindly ignore the rest of your post. evidently, you are happy with the status quo that you are so adamantly trying to support.

My position has always been, throw those out that refuse to learn, or do not want to, teach those that do AND IF THE TEACHERS REFUSE TO TEACH fire them. just like any other job in America.

Blessings to you.

Bobo


44 posted on 08/25/2012 10:07:53 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: bobo1
Just keep smoking that fairy dust, BOBO.

The way things run now, if the teacher raises their voice, they are guilty of "VERBAL ABUSE" and will be brought up on charges. You can be as "authoritative" as you please, but it won't work if no one is listening.

I don't know when you were a student, but it must have been when there was a modicum of respect for adults, authority figures, etc. Maybe back when cars used leaded gas. Now--there is no respect whatsoever given to teachers by most students, a product of poor parenting. Requests for a cessation to talking are answered with (1) being utterly ignored or (2) being told to suck the students d__k. Even the principal gets no respect now if they walk into a room. YOU work with that. Haha.

You are as naive as I originally pointed out if you think that you can "throw out" anyone who doesn't want to learn. You cannot throw students out of your classroom unless you want to get written up. The student runs to the Deans' Office, which used to be a disciplinary office for them but has turned into a sanctuary where students are believed every time over teachers, and tells the deans that Mr. So and So "won't let them into class" or "threw them out of class". The dean comes to your door with the snickering student and tells you that you cannot toss a student out. The student comes back in, emboldened by the teacher's authority having just been destroyed by the dean, and acts out even more. And so do the rest of the kids, knowing the teacher will never be backed up and that there are no consequences for their lousy behavior. I was physically assaulted in my classroom this past year and had to stand on the deans to exact some punishment. Only after THREE WEEKS was the student thug (a girl!) suspended for a few days. And the captain of the football team told me to "put my lips on his pen__s and suck real hard". I was called into a meeting with the principal, the kid's father, the head of Security, and the Vice Principal, where I was told that I would give the student extra work (he had completed no work up to this point, well into the year) so that he could pass the class and get credit for it. At no point was any punishment TO HIM discussed. Only extra work for me.

You have NO idea what is going on in today's classrooms. So you'd really save yourself a lot of embarrassment by not trying to apply 1950s homilies to today's reality.

46 posted on 08/25/2012 10:26:20 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: bobo1

After reading this article I think the Berkeley school board should be forced to read Harrison Bergeron, the short story by Kurt Vonnegut.

That’s where liberals want to take us. It’s a good read, and right on target.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron


55 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:31 AM PDT by muwarriors92
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