Posted on 08/16/2012 7:06:27 AM PDT by rightjb
Although Ive been attacked by fellow conservatives, FINALLY someone is speaking the truth about Paul Ryan lack of true fiscal conservatism. And John Boehners reply together with complicit cover ups by some conservatives had better damn well wake the rest of you up who are partying as if the Ryan nomination means the election is over.
The entire 50 second video is here, but I will paraphrase it:
Greta Van Susteren: Ryans supposed to be a fiscal hawk. How does he explain his vote for the stimulus in 08, the auto bailout, and TARP?
Speaker John Boehner: Hes not a knuckledragger right? Hes a practical conservative with a conservative record.
RedState and others are a bit upset, ironically after most of the same shamelessly embraced the Paul Ryan TEA Party label. Mark Levin (as usual) has an extraordinarily good rant, but also gave no caution to conservatives in his ringing endorsement of Ryan earlier this week. A very few of us have been cautioning against unrestrained joy at the Paul Ryan nomination not as much as a warning against Ryan himself, but in what this means for the election, Mitt Romneys administration (should he win) and the perpetual compromise that we might have to live with eight more years. And if anyone held delusions that Ryan would influence Romney to be more conservative, they might want to note Byron Yorks column this morning documenting how just the opposite is already happening. Once again, Ryan is falling in line with the GOP establishment without a peep.
Even close conservative friends have been telling me to quit being negative, having fully succumbed to the GOP mind control and Romney campaign marketing of the comeback team.
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Please, just vote for Obama then.
Good morning, blogpimp.
Out TOP priority: Get rid of Obama!
Period.
Obviously, no one is good enough for you.
After the past few days on FR, I’m beginning to see what liberals mean when they say Reagan wouldn’t be acceptable to conservatives today.
Out = OuR
Although Ive been attacked by fellow conservatives, FINALLY someone is speaking the truth about Paul Ryan lack of true fiscal conservatism. And John Boehners reply together with complicit cover ups by some conservatives had better damn well wake the rest of you up who are partying as if the Ryan nomination means the election is over.
The entire 50 second video is here, but I will paraphrase it:
Greta Van Susteren: Ryans supposed to be a fiscal hawk. How does he explain his vote for the stimulus in 08, the auto bailout, and TARP?
Speaker John Boehner: Hes not a knuckledragger right? Hes a practical conservative with a conservative record.
RedState and others are a bit upset, ironically after most of the same shamelessly embraced the Paul Ryan TEA Party label. Mark Levin (as usual) has an extraordinarily good rant, but also gave no caution to conservatives in his ringing endorsement of Ryan earlier this week. A very few of us have been cautioning against unrestrained joy at the Paul Ryan nomination not as much as a warning against Ryan himself, but in what this means for the election, Mitt Romneys administration (should he win) and the perpetual compromise that we might have to live with eight more years. And if anyone held delusions that Ryan would influence Romney to be more conservative, they might want to note Byron Yorks column this morning documenting how just the opposite is already happening. Once again, Ryan is falling in line with the GOP establishment without a peep.
Even close conservative friends have been telling me to quit being negative, having fully succumbed to the GOP mind control and Romney campaign marketing of the comeback team.
A little lesson for those ignorant of history or human nature: You dont get real change by compromise. And dishonest people will keep taking advantage of you if you dont set boundaries and make them pay for only giving lip service solutions. The core of the Republican party is fiscal conservatives, and they HAVE TO come toward us, if they desire to have the influence and power they want. But when you just hand them the check book and trust this time will be different, they learn nothing and will do whatever they want regardless of any campaign promise theyve made.
Its bad enough that so many true Tea Partiers are duped by the guy that hung Newt Gingrich out to dry (when he proved that his plan WAS social engineering by abandoning it) and who stiffed the Tea Party 22. Now the reliable conservatives are doing their best Obama administration impression trying to get us all to move on.
The American Spectator is one of the few reliable sources of conservative thought I dont feel I have to filter. Quin Hillyer, however has added them to the Drudge, Coulter, Beck list of Benedict Arnolds. He writes that he carefully listen to the intonations and words of the Speaker and has clarification on what he really said.
If you watch the interview, and listen to the intonation and the pacing of the remarks, I think it IS believable that Boehner was separating the not a knuckle-dragger part from the TARP part. I think it is fair to give Boehner the benefit of the doubt that he was not intending to suggest that only knuckle-draggers opposed TARP.
Oddly, he then goes on to argue that TARP was NOT necessary. Which is insane, because the whole notion here is that the Speaker of the House clearly characterized people that wanted to resist government spending were knuckledraggers. Hillyer has turned into Hillyer Clinton, parsing not only meanings of words, but how they were phrased. LISTEN TO IT YOURSELF. There is NO gray area here.
He ends it with, On this contretemps, lets cut the Speaker some slack. Conservatives should move on.
Really?
Should we move on from Boehner and Ryan making a laughing stock out of the TEA Party elections of 2010 by immediately sabotaging the Pledge to America that weakened the momentum we had? Should we move on from the brow beating and threats by Boehner and Ryan made against TEA party candidates to go along with his secret deal with Harry Reid to abandon pressing harder for a Balanced Budget Amendment but trust a gang of thieves to cut $1 Trillion from the military? Should we trust Boehner and Ryan who wouldnt listen to reason on the most recent highway spending bill and other pork they still wont stop? How about the Boehner and Ryan refusal to stop NDAA and its threats against US citizens or defunding the 1.2 billion rounds of ammo to the Department of Homeland Security and the US Weather Service (NOAA)?
Just move along idiot TEA Partiers. We picked your Presidential nominee for you and conned you into thinking a consummate GOP establishment politician with deep Democratic party ties was one of you.
Shut up and like it. Never mind the man behind the curtain who told you that you have not choice, despite the fact not one delegate has even cast a vote for him yet.
Do I sound cynical? I am.
This is EXACTLY what every liberal mouthpiece does after they tell you the truth. You didnt build that doesnt mean what we said. Youre reading too much into Spread the wealth around, when it was just a campaign misstatement.
For those that thinks this HURTS Romney/Ryan I challenge you to look at this from the perspective of undecided voters who are being told that R&R want to kill grandma. HOW does it hurt them to argue from the right? It doesnt. Not one bit. It actually HELPS to make them more moderate (read less scary) to the general populace. Dick Morris has an entire chapter devoted to it in his book.
But you know where it might hurt them? In Tampa. Where a platform has still has to be adopted. Where rules still have to be worked out on whether to allow the hundreds of disenfranchised GOP delegates whom the RNC and tried to strip away from Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich.
And now conservatives are playing the same game. Dont tell the truth, PolitiJim! It might hurt Romney!
God save your soul, because you deserve the corrupt GOP criminals you are covering for.
Fortunately, your children dont.
So, no thank you. I wont shut up.
Somebody has got to teach them how to have integrity and character, even when it doesnt seem to be in your own best interest.
5.56mm
Ryans supposed to be a fiscal hawk. How does he explain his vote for the stimulus in 08, the auto bailout, and TARP?
He had ZERO choice. We had President Bush who was President and you don’t go against the President when he wants to pass something. It would have made President Bush look bad. He was doing what his Boss requested much like most of us do on a daily basis.
You sound like yet another Ron Paul idiot, or worse, a Libertarian (LP) moron. There is ONE objective, douchebag...defeat Obama. If you’ve got info to assist in that goal, then post it. Otherwise you are part of the problem.
Real conservatives consider bonehead just one IQ point above the Obamacretin.
So which Left wing clown posse do you work for fraud?
Interesting to note you NEVER ever post anything critical of the Progressive Fascist Democrats, no you spend 100% of your time shooting what your claim is your own side in the back.
You are a useful idiot of the Democrat propaganda machine
Ah yes the Tokyo Rose wing of the “conservative” movement is heard from yet again.
So which Left wing clown posse do you work for fraud?
Interesting to note you NEVER ever post anything critical of the Progressive Fascist Democrats, no you spend 100% of your time shooting what your claim is your own side in the back.
You are a useful idiot of the Democrat propaganda machine
What is the point of this article? It’s too late even if he was right - and he isn’t. Ryan will help Romney win this, anyone with eyes can see that. I’m convinced now you’re actually a squishy mioderate Republican. Have you no desire to win?
But you know where it might hurt them? In Tampa. Where a platform has still has to be adopted. Where rules still have to be worked out on whether to allow the hundreds of disenfranchised GOP delegates whom the RNC and tried to strip away from Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich.
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Yeah right, and if my Aunt had a penis she would be my Uncle.
You do realize I just posted the whole article from the original poster. Take it out on him not me.
See # 17
I did not, My apologies.
That is ok, this guy just irks me. He posts an excerpt and then never responds to comments on his threads.
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